A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
Last load of watermelons and cantaloupes in
the pickup, just waiting to drive back to the
farm stand. High is supposed to be 99* +,
but at least we've got three fans going.
Hope all the pickles and okra sell.
Last load of watermelons and cantaloupes in the pickup, just waiting to drive back to the farm stand. High is supposed to be 99* +, but at least we've got three fans going. Hope all the pickles and okra sell.
Yum! I never did develop a taste for Okra. Probably because I don't know a tasty way to prepare it.
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Last load of watermelons and cantaloupes in the pickup, just waiting to drive back to the farm stand. High is supposed to be 99* +, but at least we've got three fans going. Hope all the pickles and okra sell.
Yum! I never did develop a taste for Okra. Probably because I don't know a tasty way to prepare it.
The proper way to prepare okra is battered and then fried with onions. 😋
Squeeeeeeel! I just bought a beautiful aqua Kate Spade leather tote for $69.00 on clearance. There are just some things that make me disgustingly happy, and a designer bag for a steal is one of them! Normal price was $389.
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
So for SS HM had given me a beautiful biz card holder for my purse. I had no use for it then but my new Lip biz cards arrived today and I've loaded up the holder. It is so pretty! Thanks HM
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
Hey y'all. I've been super busy but wanted to check in. I don't anticipate being around much in the coming weeks either. Our apartment and the one above us flooded early yesterday morning. The cause was a toilet pipe bursting but we haven't yet heard if the pipe was in the upstairs apartment or between the apartments.
The office is being blasé and unhelpful. We received a fair housing lecture when we said the emergency maintenance guy said they could move us to a different apartment. According to the manager, it'd be a violation of the fair housing act to rehome us in the case of emergency. I doubt it and looking up info on it is on my growing list of things to do. The office is doing (supposedly) what they must do legally. The only accommodation they've done so far is to offer $50 in the form of a gift card to help defray the extra electric costs thanks to the blowers running to dry this place out. They refuse to do anything more and said to go through our renter's insurance. We've started a claim with the renter's insurance and our agent is going to see what exactly the office is going to cover so he knows what the insurance will have to cover. Frankly, I don't feel we should have to go through renter's insurance to cover this. We don't own this place and are not responsible for the maintenance of the pipes. I feel the management company's insurance should cover this.
There is extensive damage to our apartment. We've lost some irreplaceable items. Those on my FB have seen the pics and updates as I find more stuff. I found 3 more weak spots on the walls this morning. One was near the light switch for DS' closet. I flipped the switch and noticed that the wall moved. Saw bubbling under the switch and poked it only to have the drywall crumble behind the paint.
I'm afraid to look behind the couch and under DS' bed. Both have wood on the bottom. Both are probably trash. Our bed is definitely trash. We're putting stuff that the sun won't hurt on the patio so it can dry out. The office probably won't appreciate it but my give a hoot is broken.
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
Office is already lying. Yesterday, they said someone would be by that afternoon to do an initial inspection. Didn't happen.
Chef, do you have renter's insurance to cover your personal belongings? It is routine here that leases are written for tenants to have renter's insurance to cover personal property.
ETA just re read the cause of the damage. Yeah owner's insurance should pay for your losses, not your insurance.
-- Edited by I know what to do_sometimes on Friday 7th of July 2017 05:37:42 PM
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Chef, you need to document everything. Take pictures and itemize everything.
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Oh man, chef!!! What a PITA for sure! But, this was the owner's / management firm's responsibility and it's their insurance who should pay for all you've lost. Absolutely document and take pictures of EVERYTHING! While you're doing it, try to remember prices or give an estimate of each item. If the place is uninhabitable, the owner's insurance is responsible to pay for alternative housing as well.
I'm sorry they're giving you the run around already. If you're forced to go through your insurance, stay on top of them to collect back from the owner's ins. Know a good lawyer?
Office is already lying. Yesterday, they said someone would be by that afternoon to do an initial inspection. Didn't happen.
Chef, do you have renter's insurance to cover your personal belongings? It is routine here that leases are written for tenants to have renter's insurance to cover personal property.
ETA just re read the cause of the damage. Yeah owner's insurance should pay for your losses, not your insurance.
-- Edited by I know what to do_sometimes on Friday 7th of July 2017 05:37:42 PM
Bolded. That's exactly what I think. Any idea how I would prove that? Or, who to contact to tell the complex that?
Renter's insurance is mandated by our lease. No clue how it actually works since I've never used it. Looks like I'm about to learn.
Any idea what steps we'd have to take to legally withhold rent? Yesterday, office said someone would be by that afternoon to do an initial inspection. Didn't happen. Office closes in 35 minutes and, thus far, no one has come by today. Tomorrow is Saturday so I doubt anyone will be coming by tomorrow. Frankly, I consider them to be negligent. What if the apartment's structural integrity is compromised? Their lack of prompt inspection wouldn't look good on them.
Chef, you need to document everything. Take pictures and itemize everything.
Check, check, and check.
DH has 2 videos of the water POURING out of the ceiling near the light fixture in the kitchen. One taken soon after the sound of water running woke him up and one about an hour or so later showing that the water is still POURING out. Emergency maintenance guy declared that part of the ceiling to be fine. I fail to see how that much water can come out and the ceiling is fine.
I'm using FB as a diary of sorts since they time stamp posts. I post as things come up and will note the time when I create a timeline of events. The office seems to think we'll just let them do as they please. They are wrong. This is a health and safety violation and they are quickly hanging themselves with their lack of attention to the matter.
Oh man, chef!!! What a PITA for sure! But, this was the owner's / management firm's responsibility and it's their insurance who should pay for all you've lost. Absolutely document and take pictures of EVERYTHING! While you're doing it, try to remember prices or give an estimate of each item. If the place is uninhabitable, the owner's insurance is responsible to pay for alternative housing as well.
I'm sorry they're giving you the run around already. If you're forced to go through your insurance, stay on top of them to collect back from the owner's ins. Know a good lawyer?
Not yet Do you?
I agree with everything you've said. I know you used to manage an apartment building. Do you know what site would state what you said? I'd love to find something official stating everything you've said.
What exactly constitutes uninhabitable? This feels like it should be. I'm waiting for my headache to shut up then will go on the hunt for more weak spots. Doesn't seem all that hard to find them. All I've been doing is running my hand along the wall and the drywall just crumbles. The caliber of this complex isn't such that they'd declare the apartment a total loss and do a full remodel. This is a "good enough" complex. They didn't even replace the drywall where it molded last summer after they were grossly negligent in fixing the leaky A/C. They sprayed mold killer on it and scrubbed it off ... "good enough" ... jerks. Like I said, they're hanging themselves.
I am not specialized in property law, but I would think the renter's insurance would apply to your belongings. If the landlord attempts to sue you for rent or damages, constructive eviction would be your defense, depending on the extent of the damage to the apartment.
I am not specialized in property law, but I would think the renter's insurance would apply to your belongings. If the landlord attempts to sue you for rent or damages, constructive eviction would be your defense, depending on the extent of the damage to the apartment.
The damage is pretty extensive already and I keep finding more.
I'm truly in awe of how much damage relatively little water did.
Hey y'all. I've been super busy but wanted to check in. I don't anticipate being around much in the coming weeks either. Our apartment and the one above us flooded early yesterday morning. The cause was a toilet pipe bursting but we haven't yet heard if the pipe was in the upstairs apartment or between the apartments.
The office is being blasé and unhelpful. We received a fair housing lecture when we said the emergency maintenance guy said they could move us to a different apartment. According to the manager, it'd be a violation of the fair housing act to rehome us in the case of emergency. I doubt it and looking up info on it is on my growing list of things to do. The office is doing (supposedly) what they must do legally. The only accommodation they've done so far is to offer $50 in the form of a gift card to help defray the extra electric costs thanks to the blowers running to dry this place out. They refuse to do anything more and said to go through our renter's insurance. We've started a claim with the renter's insurance and our agent is going to see what exactly the office is going to cover so he knows what the insurance will have to cover. Frankly, I don't feel we should have to go through renter's insurance to cover this. We don't own this place and are not responsible for the maintenance of the pipes. I feel the management company's insurance should cover this.
There is extensive damage to our apartment. We've lost some irreplaceable items. Those on my FB have seen the pics and updates as I find more stuff. I found 3 more weak spots on the walls this morning. One was near the light switch for DS' closet. I flipped the switch and noticed that the wall moved. Saw bubbling under the switch and poked it only to have the drywall crumble behind the paint.
I'm afraid to look behind the couch and under DS' bed. Both have wood on the bottom. Both are probably trash. Our bed is definitely trash. We're putting stuff that the sun won't hurt on the patio so it can dry out. The office probably won't appreciate it but my give a hoot is broken.
That is terrible, chef. I hate to have to tell you but most standard leases are clear that the tenant is responsible for renter's insurance to cover damage to their own belongings. My leases REQUIRE it and specifically state I am not responsible for any damage, which is a pretty standard provision. It's because things happen. It's not like the landlord purposely went and broke the toilet so it would leak into your apartment.
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Office is already lying. Yesterday, they said someone would be by that afternoon to do an initial inspection. Didn't happen.
Chef, do you have renter's insurance to cover your personal belongings? It is routine here that leases are written for tenants to have renter's insurance to cover personal property.
ETA just re read the cause of the damage. Yeah owner's insurance should pay for your losses, not your insurance.
-- Edited by I know what to do_sometimes on Friday 7th of July 2017 05:37:42 PM
Bolded. That's exactly what I think. Any idea how I would prove that? Or, who to contact to tell the complex that?
Renter's insurance is mandated by our lease. No clue how it actually works since I've never used it. Looks like I'm about to learn.
Any idea what steps we'd have to take to legally withhold rent? Yesterday, office said someone would be by that afternoon to do an initial inspection. Didn't happen. Office closes in 35 minutes and, thus far, no one has come by today. Tomorrow is Saturday so I doubt anyone will be coming by tomorrow. Frankly, I consider them to be negligent. What if the apartment's structural integrity is compromised? Their lack of prompt inspection wouldn't look good on them.
Rent and the obligation of repair are separate covenants. You can't withhold rent unless 2 things occur - 1. The damage makes the property dangerous without repair, and 2. you pay to fix it and then deduct the cost from the rent.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Chef, you need to document everything. Take pictures and itemize everything.
Check, check, and check.
DH has 2 videos of the water POURING out of the ceiling near the light fixture in the kitchen. One taken soon after the sound of water running woke him up and one about an hour or so later showing that the water is still POURING out. Emergency maintenance guy declared that part of the ceiling to be fine. I fail to see how that much water can come out and the ceiling is fine.
I'm using FB as a diary of sorts since they time stamp posts. I post as things come up and will note the time when I create a timeline of events. The office seems to think we'll just let them do as they please. They are wrong. This is a health and safety violation and they are quickly hanging themselves with their lack of attention to the matter.
Don't forget all the damaged items. Take pictures of that, as well.
And keep receipts for any expenses related to this. Document any time missed for work, too.
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
Hey y'all. I've been super busy but wanted to check in. I don't anticipate being around much in the coming weeks either. Our apartment and the one above us flooded early yesterday morning. The cause was a toilet pipe bursting but we haven't yet heard if the pipe was in the upstairs apartment or between the apartments.
The office is being blasé and unhelpful. We received a fair housing lecture when we said the emergency maintenance guy said they could move us to a different apartment. According to the manager, it'd be a violation of the fair housing act to rehome us in the case of emergency. I doubt it and looking up info on it is on my growing list of things to do. The office is doing (supposedly) what they must do legally. The only accommodation they've done so far is to offer $50 in the form of a gift card to help defray the extra electric costs thanks to the blowers running to dry this place out. They refuse to do anything more and said to go through our renter's insurance. We've started a claim with the renter's insurance and our agent is going to see what exactly the office is going to cover so he knows what the insurance will have to cover. Frankly, I don't feel we should have to go through renter's insurance to cover this. We don't own this place and are not responsible for the maintenance of the pipes. I feel the management company's insurance should cover this.
There is extensive damage to our apartment. We've lost some irreplaceable items. Those on my FB have seen the pics and updates as I find more stuff. I found 3 more weak spots on the walls this morning. One was near the light switch for DS' closet. I flipped the switch and noticed that the wall moved. Saw bubbling under the switch and poked it only to have the drywall crumble behind the paint.
I'm afraid to look behind the couch and under DS' bed. Both have wood on the bottom. Both are probably trash. Our bed is definitely trash. We're putting stuff that the sun won't hurt on the patio so it can dry out. The office probably won't appreciate it but my give a hoot is broken.
That is terrible, chef. I hate to have to tell you but most standard leases are clear that the tenant is responsible for renter's insurance to cover damage to their own belongings. My leases REQUIRE it and specifically state I am not responsible for any damage, which is a pretty standard provision. It's because things happen. It's not like the landlord purposely went and broke the toilet so it would leak into your apartment.
Understood. I wouldn't mind if they needed to be reimbursed by renter's insurance. The correct thing for them to have done is to get us out of the apartment that night. This is bad and here it is day 4 post-flood and there is still wetness, our bed is still wet, and another wall gets a weak spot each day so far. I see bubbles popping up on the walls so I touch them to see if I feel squishiness (which could mean another leak) and the wall gives way from a light touch. The promised initial inspection was supposed to happen Thursday afternoon. It did not. Nor did it happen Friday or Saturday. Late Saturday, I got a call from the office assistant giving me attitude because I didn't answer the door for their vendor to collect their blowers. I'm partially deaf and did not hear the door. I told her that we still need the blowers because there is still wetness in the apartment and our bed is still very wet. Nope, no can do, the vendor is on the way back to your door right now to get the blowers she said. Well, alrighty then!
I saw a dark spot on one of the walls in our bedroom just now. I thought it might be mildew/mold so I touched it to see if it was wet or if the wall was just stained. My hand went through the wall. Now, my hand is numb and my wrist hurts.
I'll get a better pic tomorrow but this is the wall my hand just went through. That wrinkling you see goes down a good foot to foot and a half. That whole wall from the left side of the indent you see to the part behind the bookshelf moves.
Have you spoken to the tenant above you?
Is their damage as extensive as yours is?
I agree with IKWTDS - start with your
local building inspector. And I would go
in person, rather than by phone. An
unhappy resident in front of you will get
the ball rolling a lot faster than some voice
on the phone.
And document, document, document. Any
pictures you take should have some kind
of "date" in them - like the front page of
your local newspaper, which will have the
date.
Also check your dry goods in your pantry.
Cereals, flour, rice, powdered soap can be
damaged by ambient moisture.
by ambient moisture
Call and make a claim on your renter's insurance - find out if you have coverage for a hotel stay.
Are you wanting to move? Because this could be constructive eviction - although you need to look at your lease for what it says about damage. You may not be able to terminate your lease, but while you can't live there, rent should abate. And it should give a specific amount of time for the landlord to fix it.
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