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Listen carefully. It's not a one time crime. We have had 3 fatal police shootings since November of 2015. PLUS several instances of police brutality - about one a month. It's not an isolated incident. The Minneapolis police are not to be trusted. She failed as a leader to instill any type of order.


 Well now.  That's a tad different.  It sounds like you are right and she needed to go.

 

Is she herself corrupt, or just incapable of leading the police force?


 I appreciate you finally getting it. I counted and I mentioned 4 times in this thread that there were 3 instances of police shootings. Glad you finally heard me. Whew. 


 You said 2 of the shootings were dogs.  If her department is that bad, then yes, she should step down b/c she obviously doesn't know how to work within the parameters she has been dealt.  But I don't think it's all her.  I think it's a systemic problem.



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You mean "doesn't", I believe.

And that's part of my thinking related to this - she's going to be the scapegoat for a lot of bad policy. I mean, seriously, we're hiring refuges as cops, now? They are from horrible, war torn conditions, they haven't even had time to fully adjust to people in a fully developed nation, and we're handing them guns and sending them onto the streets to protect others? That's all kinds of messed up.


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am wondering why the partner(in the driver's seat)didn't react to prevent the shooting--realize it happened suddenly but the cop that fired would have had to clear their weapon(if holstered)or at least make an effort to fire around the driver--think of the proximity of the three of them--maybe what, two meters?--come on, police officer or no, the driver was close enough to control the weapon and prevent the shooting--several things about the entire incident just don't scan--did the woman reach into the vehicle? grab the other officer? was she alone(no one behind her posing a potential threat)?

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am wondering why the partner(in the driver's seat)didn't react to prevent the shooting--realize it happened suddenly but the cop that fired would have had to clear their weapon(if holstered)or at least make an effort to fire around the driver--think of the proximity of the three of them--maybe what, two meters?--come on, police officer or no, the driver was close enough to control the weapon and prevent the shooting--several things about the entire incident just don't scan--did the woman reach into the vehicle? grab the other officer? was she alone(no one behind her posing a potential threat)?


 It is unfortunately a case of lack of training.  Extremely tragic.



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And lack of experience. Both cops had been on the job for a little over a year.

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am wondering why the partner(in the driver's seat)didn't react to prevent the shooting--realize it happened suddenly but the cop that fired would have had to clear their weapon(if holstered)or at least make an effort to fire around the driver--think of the proximity of the three of them--maybe what, two meters?--come on, police officer or no, the driver was close enough to control the weapon and prevent the shooting--several things about the entire incident just don't scan--did the woman reach into the vehicle? grab the other officer? was she alone(no one behind her posing a potential threat)?


 I think that is a stretch.  If the other officer was engaged talking to this woman out of the window, he isn't going to see his partner pull out his gun and fire.  That would only take a sec and he wouldn't even have realized what was happening until after the gun shot.  He stated he was "shocked".  So, he didn't expect this officer to pull a weapon so if he was shocked, then he felt in his mind, there was no situation warranting the sudden pulling out of a weapon to shoot.  The shooter cop just choose to do this.



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I don't think it is a "lack of training". I think it was willful and deliberate.

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I don't see willful and deliberate  but perhaps ignorance and poor training and supervision.

Sadly most civilians I know with a license to carry are probably more proficient and skilled at its weapons than most of th cops I know.
When are they going to give these people proper training? Ugh



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I still can't believe they made a Somolian refuge who has only been here 2 years a cop.

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I'm not surprised, personally. Not given the era during which he was hired. It was all about making refugees feel at home, the hell with the security of this nation.

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I still can't believe they made a Somolian refuge who has only been here 2 years a cop.


 Right?? I mean I'd expect he would have more issues than Spider-Man given the environment from where he came. Holy therapy Batman



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I still can't believe they made a Somolian refuge who has only been here 2 years a cop.


 And this is why assimilation is so important. Many of the refugees come from almost lawless cultures which could explain the trigger happiness



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I'm not surprised, personally. Not given the era during which he was hired. It was all about making refugees feel at home, the hell with the security of this nation.
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amen--and, unfortunately, do not see the situation improving nation-wide for quite a while yet with thanks due to obama and his thugs



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I might be a little trigger happy, too if I had just escaped a worn torn nation where everyone was trying to kill me. There is no way he should have been made a cop on the street. If they needed to hire him, he should have been riding a desk.

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I still can't believe they made a Somolian refuge who has only been here 2 years a cop.


 Of course this is our new "diversity" blah, blah.  But, we used to expect cops to have some reasonable fear for their life and when they shot someone it was because a weapon was pointed at them.  Oh now, we are "startled" by a lady in her PJs.  Really?  Who in their right mind wants to have to call the Police now.  And, did the Police Chief go out of her way to hire him or was she told she had to hire him even thought he didn't have the years of training and vetting of other police officers.



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