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So Czech may recognize how I responded to the azz's ripping Trump is taking over signing the ban.  Of course his Military Generals approached him about the Act O had put in place.  The ones screaming discrimination obviously have zero Military experience.

 

 So this is not about being transgender. It is about keeping our military force the most powerful in the world to keep every single American safe. There are thousands of medical reasons why some cannot enter the Military or are given honorable discharge, including having flat feet, asthma, being too short, too tall, too fat, and thousands or other reasons because people with those conditions cannot not fight in battle and help to protect their fellow soldiers. I know this all too well having a son who served for 8 years as well as other family members serving. Simply put, someone who needs constant medical care cannot effectively serve as a soldier. Transgender means going through a year or so of hormonal therapy for a year + prior to two years of a serious of surgeries followed by a lifetime of needing hormone treatment.How does that timeline fit in with doing the job of a soldier? It doesn't. Our battlefields do not have CVS' or Rite Aids on every corner of the desert. If you don't get it, that is probably because you do not have military experience. This ban is not a discrimination against Transgender, it is a ban against those who cannot effectively serve due to the on going medical care they need. I trust the military Generals that approached Trump about this issue and asked him to reverse the Act Obama signed. They know best about the topic of protecting all our military.



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I am glad for it. A strong military is good for everyone in this country, trannys included.

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I agree with Trump's choice.

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I agree too! The military is not a place to push social agendas. To many lives at stake.

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The military discharges many people with medical issues. This is no different.

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Transitioning Transgender Soldiers’ Medical Expenses 14 Times Higher than Average

www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/26/transitioning-transgender-soldiers-medical-expenses-14-times-higher-average/

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I tried to join the military when I started law school and they wouldn't let me because of my scoliosis. One doctor said they would give me a medical pass b/c I was already a college graduate and I had other qualifications and would end up at a desk, but another vetoed it b/c he said my back could end up costing the military too much money to treat.

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My son joined the Air Force in March. Some of the other recruits did not make it through MEPS, the medical exam. One girl had back issues and was seeing a chiropractor and and she was sent home and was not allowed to join. A friend of his had repeated surgeries on his shoulder, etc he could not join.

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I agree with it.

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I've heard a lot of ignorant statements on the way into work. One talk show host said "this has all kinds of repurcussions, it is not just a ban on military but for all that work for the Pentagon". And the other was "most people take meds such as someone with high blood pressure and they aren't being banned". Such idiots.

Now I do think that anyone physically and mentally fit should be able to join, but the taxpayers should not have to foot the bill for elective surgery.

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Someone posted this:

Nobody has a "right" to serve in the Military. Nobody.

What makes people think the Military is an equal opportunity employer? Very far from it.

The Military uses prejudice regularly and consistently to deny citizens from joining for being too old or too young, too fat or too skinny, too tall or too short.

Citizens are denied for having flat feet, or for missing or additional fingers. Poor eyesight will disqualify you, as well as bad teeth. Malnourished? Drug addiction? Bad back? Criminal history? Low IQ? Anxiety? Phobias? Hearing damage? Six arms? Hear voices in your head? Self-identify as a Unicorn?

Need a special access ramp for your wheelchair? Can't run the required course in the required time? Can't do the required number of pushups?

Not really a "morning person" and refuse to get out of bed before noon?
All can be reasons for denial.

The Military has one job. War. Anything else is a distraction and a liability.
Did someone just scream "That isn't Fair"? War is VERY unfair, there are no exceptions made for being special or challenged or socially wonderful.

YOU change yourself to meet Military standards. Not the other way around.
I say again: You don't change the Military... you must change yourself.
The Military doesn't need to accommodate anyone with special issues. The Military needs to Win Wars.

If any of your personal issues are a liability that detract from readiness or lethality... Thank you for applying and good luck in future endeavors. Who's next in line?

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I don't understand why someone who medically transitioned prior to wanting to join should be banned. Like if everything was obviously suppose to be male and now was fixed and their ID cards matched, etc.. I do understand the military not paying for transitions.

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Well all the VSS' think it's a right. I know they are wrong and most have zero experience with the military and so just are ignorant.

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I don't understand why someone who medically transitioned prior to wanting to join should be banned. Like if everything was obviously suppose to be male and now was fixed and their ID cards matched, etc.. I do understand the military not paying for transitions.


 The cost of the life long hormone treatment plus you cannot be on medication on the battle field



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Bonny22Pye wrote:

I don't understand why someone who medically transitioned prior to wanting to join should be banned. Like if everything was obviously suppose to be male and now was fixed and their ID cards matched, etc.. I do understand the military not paying for transitions.


 The cost of the life long hormone treatment plus you cannot be on medication on the battle field


 Does everyone require life-long hormone treatment?



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Bonny22Pye wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:

I don't understand why someone who medically transitioned prior to wanting to join should be banned. Like if everything was obviously suppose to be male and now was fixed and their ID cards matched, etc.. I do understand the military not paying for transitions.


 The cost of the life long hormone treatment plus you cannot be on medication on the battle field


 Does everyone require life-long hormone treatment?


 That's what I've been told.



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Bonny22Pye wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Bonny22Pye wrote:

I don't understand why someone who medically transitioned prior to wanting to join should be banned. Like if everything was obviously suppose to be male and now was fixed and their ID cards matched, etc.. I do understand the military not paying for transitions.


 The cost of the life long hormone treatment plus you cannot be on medication on the battle field


 Does everyone require life-long hormone treatment?


 Absolutely.  



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How do they deal with birth control in the military? I doubt female soldiers stop taking their meds.

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Good article...

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/military-women-face-special-challenges-when-it-comes-to-birth-control_us_5722c672e4b01a5ebde53a0d

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Next year, the military will officially lift restrictions on women in combat, the end of a process that, according to the Government Accountability Office, may open up as many as 245,000 jobs that have been off-limits to women. But those who deploy overseas may continue to face obstacles in another area that can have a critical impact on their military experience: contraception.

It's not a minor issue. Rates of unintended pregnancy among women in the military are about 50 percent higher than those of women in the general population. And because of strict federal rules, their health insurance does not generally cover abortion.

Tricare, the health care plan for more than 9 million active and retired members of the military, covers most contraceptive methods approved by the Food and Drug Administration. Active-duty service members pay nothing out of pocket. Spouses and dependents of members of the service may face copayments in some instances. But all methods aren't necessarily available at every military hospital and clinic; and overseas, for example, women may have difficulty getting refills of their specific type of birth control pill.






Fifteen percent of active-duty service members are women, and 97 percent of them are of childbearing age.

In a 2013 study, based on more than 28,000 responses to the 2008 Department of Defense survey on health-related behaviors, researchers found that after adjusting for the larger concentration of young women in the military, the rate of unintended pregnancy among military women was 7.8 percent. That's compared with 5.2 percent among women in the general population.

It can be challenging to use contraceptives while deployed overseas for many reasons. There is the problem of trying to schedule a daily birth control pill when traveling across time zones; and desert conditions may make a contraceptive patch fall off. Although women are allowed a 180-day supply of contraceptives before deploying, obtaining refills of the same pill can be difficult, some servicewomen reported in a 2012 survey.


www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/08/11/431382325/women-in-combat-zones-can-have-trouble-getting-contraceptives

This article is from 2015, but still very valid...


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Ohfour wrote:

Good article...

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/military-women-face-special-challenges-when-it-comes-to-birth-control_us_5722c672e4b01a5ebde53a0d


 That was a good article.



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Bonny22Pye wrote:

How do they deal with birth control in the military? I doubt female soldiers stop taking their meds.


 That is the choice of the soldier.  There are implants that last for how long?  I don't know, I have no experience.  But if the soldier were to get pregnant they would be re assigned and 6 weeks after birth would be in the deployment pool.  Woman are given more leeway then male soldiers. 



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read something earlier this morning where some twit liberal reporter for the atlantic tweeted a report that " a transgender navy seal was on the mission that killed OBL--the seal was also awarded the bronze star and the purple heart for the same mission. "

none other than dakota meyer(a moh recipient, no less)tweeted back to her " not true. "--she then replied " how do YOU know? "--and meyer replied:
" because i'm sitting next to the navy seal that killed OBL. "

the fake news bias and the extent to which the left will go to justify their mental illness knows no bounds--fvcking hilarious !

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read something earlier this morning where some twit liberal reporter for the atlantic tweeted a report that " a transgender navy seal was on the mission that killed OBL--the seal was also awarded the bronze star and the purple heart for the same mission. "

none other than dakota meyer(a moh recipient, no less)tweeted back to her " not true. "--she then replied " how do YOU know? "--and meyer replied:
" because i'm sitting next to the navy seal that killed OBL. "

the fake news bias and the extent to which the left will go to justify their mental illness knows no bounds--fvcking hilarious !


 The libs are eating it up. I posted on a friend's post about how military has carte blanche to choose soldiers.  War is not fair and the soldier pic isn't either but it is for the best of the country.  Not one of the libs that have casted me as a bigot have any experience in the military, they are just VSS. This feel good crap needs to stop.



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on a side note, some big " resistance " organization scheduled a big sit-in at the AG's office in austin a couple of days ago to protest the plight of dreamers/relatives/whatever and how the government was oppressing them, etc. and it was time for the " resistance " to rise up--supposedly there were to be a cast of hundreds/thousands rallying to support the nonsense--fifteen people showed up(only five of them were actually from texas)--fifteen

yeah, y'all come on with all your " resistance " bs--bring it on down here under the lone star and see what happens

ridiculous



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