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Gay Coffee Shop Owner Shouts Profanities at Christian Pro-Life Group, Kicks Them Out

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by KATHERINE RODRIGUEZ7 Oct 201734,456

A gay coffee shop owner in Seattle kicked a Christian pro-life group out of his coffee shop because he felt offended by their presence, according to video footage of the incident.

The Washington Times reports that the group, called Abolish Human Abortion, decided to order drinks at Seattle’s Bedlam Coffee after passing out pro-life pamphlets in the area when the owner angrily asked the group to leave.

“I’m gay. You have to leave,” owner Ben Borgman said in the Facebook video.

“Are you denying us service?” activist Caytie Davis asked.

“I am. Yeah,” Borgman replied.

The group had been handing out pamphlets about the Bible, sin, and abortion to Seattle residents and one of the baristas let Borgman know what he was doing, according to the Blaze.

Borgman did not take the news well, and further confronted the group.

“This is offensive to me. I own the place. I have the right to be offended,” he said.

The group tried to explain to him that they did not leave any pamphlets in the cafe, but Borgman continued to berate the group.

“There’s nothing you can say. This is you and I don’t want these people in this place,” he said.

Borgman then asked activist Jonathan Sutherland whether he would “tolerate” a sex act between two men.

“Can you tolerate my presence? Really?” the owner asked. “If I go get my boyfriend and f**k him in the a** right here you’re going to tolerate that? Are you going to tolerate it?”

“That would be your choice,” Sutherland replied.

“Answer my f***ing question!” Borgman yelled back. “No, you’re going to sit right here and f***ing watch it! Leave, all of you! Tell all your f**king friends don’t come here!”

As the group prepared to leave, one of the women in the group told Borgman, “Just know that Christ can save you from that lifestyle.”

“Yeah, I like a**,” the owner spat. “I’m not going to be saved by anything. I’d f**k Christ in the a**. Okay? He’s hot.”

Another woman then told him that she would pray for him.

The group’s Facebook video has gone viral, racking up 447,000 views and nearly 3,000 shares.



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Now, THAT is discrimination.

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I hope they sue the shop/owner

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What does being gay have to do with prolife and abortion?

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

What does being gay have to do with prolife and abortion?

 Nothing.  Is has to do with the gay shop owner assuming that as Christians, they must be Trump supporters and he also believes in the falsehood that Trump in anti gay.



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wow.

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The article won't let me post it to facebook

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Vette wrote:

The article won't let me post it to facebook

 It isn't the article, it's FB that won't let you post it.



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What an angry little man.

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Where are the protests and calls to prosecute?



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This guy was way, way over the top. I can't help but think he started the day off angry at something or other and things just escalated until this group came in and they got both barrels (so to speak) of his anger. He needs some kind of anger management classes or a quick kick in the a..

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This guy was way, way over the top. I can't help but think he started the day off angry at something or other and things just escalated until this group came in and they got both barrels (so to speak) of his anger. He needs some kind of anger management classes or a quick kick in the a..

 It's the new normal in the US, karl. Every Christian is under attack. Most of the Christians on this board has warned about it for years, but now it is in our face.



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The sad thing is, people still don't see it.

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His business. His right to boot people out.

I'm wondering if he's a hypocrite or not. If he got kicked out of a Christian-owned coffee shop, would he be ok with that? Or, would he kick up a fuss and sue the shop? He can't squawk discrimination if he's going to discriminate.

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His business. His right to boot people out.

I'm wondering if he's a hypocrite or not. If he got kicked out of a Christian-owned coffee shop, would he be ok with that? Or, would he kick up a fuss and sue the shop? He can't squawk discrimination if he's going to discriminate.

 No.  You can't kick people out of public places because of race, sex, religion, or sexual orientation.  That's the LAW.  

 

Christians can't kick gay people out of their shops, either.  The cake issue is about artful expression and taking part in an event.  NO ONE can kick someone out of a business just because of who they are. 



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His business. His right to boot people out.

I'm wondering if he's a hypocrite or not. If he got kicked out of a Christian-owned coffee shop, would he be ok with that? Or, would he kick up a fuss and sue the shop? He can't squawk discrimination if he's going to discriminate.

 No.  You can't kick people out of public places because of race, sex, religion, or sexual orientation.  That's the LAW.  

 

Christians can't kick gay people out of their shops, either.  The cake issue is about artful expression and taking part in an event.  NO ONE can kick someone out of a business just because of who they are. 

 I know that's the law. I figure the community will take care of him by not patronizing his business if he wants to do things his way.



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His business. His right to boot people out.

I'm wondering if he's a hypocrite or not. If he got kicked out of a Christian-owned coffee shop, would he be ok with that? Or, would he kick up a fuss and sue the shop? He can't squawk discrimination if he's going to discriminate.

 No.  You can't kick people out of public places because of race, sex, religion, or sexual orientation.  That's the LAW.  

 

Christians can't kick gay people out of their shops, either.  The cake issue is about artful expression and taking part in an event.  NO ONE can kick someone out of a business just because of who they are. 

 I know that's the law. I figure the community will take care of him by not patronizing his business if he wants to do things his way.

 In Seattle?  I wouldn't count on it.



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You are right, Chef, he should be able to refuse service to whomever he wishes.

His business.

My problem in this matter is not that he should have that right, but more that the double standard is so blatant.

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I remember back in the 60's when California ruled that you had to rent your apartment to anyone who wanted to rent it if the were able to make the rent, regardless of race, creed, etc. This was expanded to you must sell to anyone who wants to buy your property/house/car/whatever as long as they had the credit or cash to do so. I thought that a law was passed that required all business owners to serve anyone who entered their place of business, regardless of sex, religion, etc. etc. In the 60's I thought those were horrible laws and it was a mistake to pass them; now we can see the loss of liberty and choice that owners have. But I do not think "his business, his choice" us an option under the law now, unless these have been modified..... And I do think "his business, his choice" is the correct thing.....

As I recall, all these laws were passed to enable African-Americans to have equal rights in renting, buying, shopping....

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