TOTALLY GEEKED!

FNW · Guru

Active shooter in Florida

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

What??? omg

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Watching it now. Shooter in custody, former student. 14 thus far at least injured, 1 dead. Although not info is just coming out now. Happened as school was being dismissed. 3000 students at this HS so it is taking a long time to get to them all.

Ohfour · Hooker

We're currently about 29 miles from there...:(

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

17 dead.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

He pulled the fire alarm so everyone would be out in the hall.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

so a "mental health" professional unfriended me saying I didn't understand Autism. I had posted the very thing I posted above about parents not having resources to commit their kids that they know are dangerous. She disagreed with me. And she manages mental health patients. Pretty scary.

FNW · Guru

Was the shooter autistic?

karl271 · Guru

Yet another shooting in a school. Just wonder what kids these days are thinking or not thinking.... Maybe there just is not enough fear out there. My age group were in awe of and afraid of just about everybody - Church, parents, neighbors, teachers. Did not keep us from acting up a bit, but I cannot imagine anyone picking up a gun and shooting like this.

Lindley · Guru

R.I.P. to all those young people who lost their lives way go young.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

FNW wrote:
Was the shooter autistic?

I have no idea and I didn't even bring up autism. All I said was we need to give parents and the court systems an avenue to lock people up in facilities when it is recognized that someone is disturbed. She was a lib FB friend so probably an "attack" just to justify unfriending. I didn't have much interaction with her. Not sure why she thought she needed to make up a reason. But oh well.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

You can't walk into to other businesses or agencies without passing people who are going to question you or take note. We protect our money with guns. We protect courtrooms with guns. We have security at major events. We need one entrance and exit. How do most of these killers get there in the first place? Do they drive a car onto school grounds or are they walking in from a secluded area. Once they are on school grounds, would a watchful eye have seen someone walking with a gun or an attempt to have something concealed? How are they gaining entrance into the school? Through the front doors or side entraces, etc? All of this needs to be studied and procedures need to be put in place.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

If there is some gun law that would stop this, PLEASE tell me what it is and I will support it. At this point we need to secure our schools. We can do that if we choose too. But, curiously, I know people who simply want more gun laws but are vehemently against having armed security and police presence in our schools. Mark Furhman said that we need to develop school security as a specialty just like we did for terrorism.

FNW · Guru

karl271 wrote:
Yet another shooting in a school. Just wonder what kids these days are thinking or not thinking.... Maybe there just is not enough fear out there. My age group were in awe of and afraid of just about everybody - Church, parents, neighbors, teachers. Did not keep us from acting up a bit, but I cannot imagine anyone picking up a gun and shooting like this.

I can remember that as well. My mom and I were just talking about that this morning. In high school, we had to "Narcs", who walked around the entire open air school (So. Cal) with walkie talkies. They were two little old ladies but they acted tough. Kids were afraid of them! (I wasn't, I used to wave goodbye to them when I'd leave campus). But most were afraid as they represented authority. That sort of fear doesn't seem to be present anymore.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Well, it seems nobody fears God or Hell, that's for sure. These shooters want to kill as many people as possible and they don't care if they die and most of them actually plan on dying as well. And, I think they believe in annhilation that there is nothing after death and that is what they are seeking.

-- Edited by Lady Gaga Snerd on Thursday 15th of February 2018 08:35:49 AM

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

The FBI was warned about this kid months ago.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

The kid was expelled from the school, reported to local authorities as a threat, and reported to the FBI.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Even so, do they watch someone 24/7? I mean how closely are people monitored? Unless someone is in custody, can the FBI really monitor 24/7? I don't know if they do or not.

FNW · Guru

We can't monitor someone 24/7. Even my sociopath friend's ex-wife had an investigator who was following him around the country, waiting for him to commit a crime. He was still able to attack his step-daughter out in the open. See something say something? That's all and good but nothing can be done until he DOES something.

-- Edited by FNW on Thursday 15th of February 2018 09:45:35 AM

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Even so, do they watch someone 24/7? I mean how closely are people monitored? Unless someone is in custody, can the FBI really monitor 24/7? I don't know if they do or not.

He should not have passed the background check if he was on an FBI watch list. This is the second failure of the FBI that I know of. They were warned multiple times about the Boston maMarath brothers.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Well i haven't heard how his guns were obtained. Were they legally obtained? But, yes if he purchased them, then there is a problem with our background check system. Another law won't fix systemic issues. Like the church shooter who should have been restricted, the Air Force, aka GOVT even dropped the ball in making sure he was on that list. We can have all the laws on the planet but if we dont' have means to monitor and implement another law is just another feel good, pretend to do something that is really nothing. It's how politicians absolve themselves of doing the real hard work of implementation.

Lindley · Guru

TheRe are plenty of gun laws, the problem is they are not being inforced.
I wish that instead of focusing on banning guns we should be focusing on our mental health problems for our young people.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Well i haven't heard how his guns were obtained. Were they legally obtained? But, yes if he purchased them, then there is a problem with our background check system. Another law won't fix systemic issues. Like the church shooter who should have been restricted, the Air Force, aka GOVT even dropped the ball in making sure he was on that list. We can have all the laws on the planet but if we dont' have means to monitor and implement another law is just another feel good, pretend to do something that is really nothing. It's how politicians absolve themselves of doing the real hard work of implementation.

Yes he bought the gun leagally, passed a background check.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Well i haven't heard how his guns were obtained. Were they legally obtained? But, yes if he purchased them, then there is a problem with our background check system. Another law won't fix systemic issues. Like the church shooter who should have been restricted, the Air Force, aka GOVT even dropped the ball in making sure he was on that list. We can have all the laws on the planet but if we dont' have means to monitor and implement another law is just another feel good, pretend to do something that is really nothing. It's how politicians absolve themselves of doing the real hard work of implementation.
Yes he bought the gun leagally, passed a background check.

OK, thank you for that info.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

But, yes if he was being watched by the FBI, then how did he purchase a gun? What needs to happen to prevent that?

FNW · Guru

Call centers for background investigations for purchase of firearms is contracted out by the FBI. NICS is located in Clarksburg, WV.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
But, yes if he was being watched by the FBI, then how did he purchase a gun? What needs to happen to prevent that?

LL'' point was he was reported to the FBI but the fbF ignored the report so he wasn't on their list.

Scooby · Newbie

All these kids are saying they aren’t surprised this guy did this. The teachers were aware of him. Most were afraid of him. There were clear signs but what do you do? It’s a serious question for me. How do you keep him from buying a gun and doing this? You can’t arrest someone because they’re creepy or give that mass shooter vibe. And really, banning guns isn’t the answer either. I read a great opinion piece on the LA Times about the conundrum that we face as far as what we can do to prevent these things. Some say “dont let the media report about him” but then there’s the first amendment; others say “ban all guns” but then there’s the second amendment. Do we deny people due process, particularly mentally ill people, who might do something like this? That’s certainly not desirable. So, there’s going to have to be some serious trade-off but what will give?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Even so, do they watch someone 24/7? I mean how closely are people monitored? Unless someone is in custody, can the FBI really monitor 24/7? I don't know if they do or not.

Well, that's the problem, isn't it? There is no mechanism in this country to commit or otherwise make someone get mental help until they commit a crime. That's ridiculous - especially when parents and the school know there is a problem.

When a kid gets expelled from school for violent tendencies, they should be committed to a mental institution by a juvenile court, IMO.

Lindley · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Even so, do they watch someone 24/7? I mean how closely are people monitored? Unless someone is in custody, can the FBI really monitor 24/7? I don't know if they do or not.
Well, that's the problem, isn't it? There is no mechanism in this country to commit or otherwise make someone get mental help until they commit a crime. That's ridiculous - especially when parents and the school know there is a problem.

When a kid gets expelled from school for violent tendencies, they should be committed to a mental institution by a juvenile court, IMO.

Our country's mental health care is horrible, our pastor and my husband took a church member who clearly had paranoia and thought the government and others were after him to a hospital emergency room The doctors tried to call psychiatric hospitals to get him help but not one had any room to take him. From what I heard from a nurse I know who worked in juvenile psychiatric hospital they are pretty full too.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

You know what? 30 years ago, kids with pickup trucks had gun racks, with guns, on school grounds, about everywhere in our state. No school shootings, period.

You know what? I, personally, blame my own generation for the failures of our children and grandchildren.

WE (g) messed up as parents back then.

WE were the enlightened generation, who didn't know crap, in hindsight.

WE destroyed the structure of the family. (high divorce rate, fatherless homes, devaluing of fathers, children in foster care, two paychecks needed to support a family etc.)

WE devalued life for "enlightenments sake". (abortion made easy, go ahead, have all the sex you want and then kill the results of your choices. It's okay to disrespect yourself as well, no repercussions for your behavior)

WE destroyed the mental health system. (almost all mental institutions are closed. Put all the mentally ill out on the streets, the community will take care of them they said. That worked well. No, it didn't.)

WE created the cops are pigs moto in the 60's. (heaven forbid YOU did something illegal)

WE destroyed respect for authority by disrespecting it ourselves. (go ahead and yell at the teacher for your kids failure to succeed. Throw that finger out there as the cop drives by.)

IMHO, our biggest failure as youth, in the 60's and 70's, was that we bought into the liberal crap. Look where we are, our kids are messed up. Not all of them, actually most are doing well, but the ones that are really messed up in the head are really messed up in the head and no one is doing anything about it. The mental health system needs to be fixed first. Early recognition of "mental failure to thrive" needs to be addressed.

The family needs to be valued AGAIN. TWO parents make the best family. Kids NEED two parents. Kids WANT two parents. Kids WANT to be normal. Kids are struggling in this new era. Sex and violence is thrown their way every single time they watch TV or play a stupid video game. The weakest kids WILL not adapt normally in this new mind numbing environment. Coddling will not fix these kids either.

I do not have the "fix it" answer, but I do know the problem is us. WE. ARE. THE. PROBLEM.

Sorry for the long vent. My apologies if I offended anyone, was not my intention to offend.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Wow. That was very well said!!!!!!!! Gave me chills.

Momala · Great cook-happy wife-superb fisherman

Czech ~
You nailed it!
Now that we know where/how it started,
we should be able to work on fixing it.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

How were at least 15 warning signs missed for Nikolas Cruz?
1. 'I'm going to be a professional school shooter'

Nikolas Cruz left a comment on a YouTube video back in September using his own name that simply read: 'I'm going to be a professional school shooter'

2. FBI was warned about the comment but couldn't identify him

Vlogger Ben Bennight alerted the FBI to the comment shared by Cruz. The FBI was quick to respond, arriving at his office the next day but only after Bennight called a local field agent, revealing his initial attempts to send in a screengrab of the comment failed when the email address he found listed on the agency's website came back with a domain error saying it did not exist. The FBI was unable to identify the person who posted the comment.

3. Bought an AR-15 age 18

After Cruz's mother died, he eventually moved in the the family of a former classmate, where he brought his AR-15 which was kept in a locked cabinet that he had the key to. He was able to purchase the rifle in the past year and passed a required background check. Federal law allowed people 18 and over to legally purchase long guns. At 21, people can legally buy handguns from a license dealer

4. Troubling Instagram page

Cruz's Instagram page is filled with disturbing posts of what appears to be himself showing off with weapons with his face covered, asking for advice on buying firearms, and making racist comments about Muslims.

5. Was a member of a white nationalist group and came to training exercises

Jordan Jereb claims that Cruz was a member of the Republic of Florida, which aims to make Florida its own white-entho state. Jereb claimed Cruz, who was adopted, was brought up in the organization by another member and he reportedly carpooled to at least two training exercises held by the group.

6. Boasted about hurting animals

Students who say they knew Cruz claimed he liked to kill animals.

'He was crazy because he liked to kill small things, like little animals - frogs and other animals like that and he just had a crazy mind,' one told 10ABC news.

Another classmate claims he would tell him he shot rats with a BB gun.

7. Took knives and bullets to school

Former classmate Joshua Charo, 16, said all he 'would talk about is guns, knives and hunting'.

Another student said he started selling knives out of a lunchbox when he started high school.

8. Was banned from carrying a backpack

Jim Gard, a math teacher, who had Cruz in his class last year, said he believes the school sent out an email warning teachers he shouldn't be allowed on campus with a backpack.

'There were problems with him last year threatening students and I guess he was asked to leave campus'.

9. Expelled for fighting

The deeply troubled 'loner' was expelled last year for 'fighting over his ex-girlfriend' with her new boyfriend.

10. Abusive to his ex-girlfriend

Students claim the gunman was abusive to his girlfriend

11. Stalked another girl

Mr Gard also claimed that he was taken with another student 'to the point of stalking her', while another student who claims to have been friends with Cruz said he had to cut him off because he started 'going after' and 'threatening' a female friend of his.

12. Peeping Tom

Neighbor Christine Rosburgh said she, and all the other neighbors, were terrified of the teen who would bang his head against a cement wall if his legal guardians tried to send him to school.

She also claims she caught him peeking in her window and when she confronted him, he said he was looking for golf balls.

'I said, "This isn't the golf course".

13. Stopped his mental health treatment

Cruz had been getting treatment at a mental health clinic, but stopped about a year ago and dropped off the radar. He was showing signs of depression.

Broward County Mayor Beam Furr said: 'It wasn't like there wasn't concern for him. We try to keep out eyes out on those kids who aren't connected... In this case, we didn't find a way to connect with this kid.'

14. Possible fetal alcohol syndrome

Natalie Brassard, a program director at the non-profit FASCETS, which works with FASD children, said some of Cruz's characteristics 'suggest that he might have been living with an invisible brain-based condition - it could have been FASD or many others.'

Conditions of FASD can range from mild to severe but can include learning disabilities, intellectual disability or low IQ, poor reasoning and judgment and a host of other issues.

15. Orphaned

Cruz's adoptive mother, Lynda Cruz, 68, died of pneumonia in November last year. She was one of the only people that was remotely close to Cruz. His adoptive father Roger Cruz died of a heart attack several years ago.

After his mother died, he and his brother were left in the care of family friend Barbara Kumbatovich, of Long Island, New York, but unhappy there, he moved in with a former classmate in a mobile home park in northwest Broward.

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5393919/First-victim-Florida-high-school-massacre-pictured.html
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Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

There were warning signs. People knew. The FBI knew. Yet we still couldn't stop this.

-- Edited by Lady Gaga Snerd on Thursday 15th of February 2018 03:43:59 PM

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

Once again, proof that our system (WE) failed.

Lindley · Guru

Czech you are spot on, there are so many kids who live in dysfunctional homes and it is so sad. You always know one or maybe two growing up but now it seems (at least where I live) it is more common then kids from healthy homes. I sometimes think some of the so-called parents need to be nurtured if they fail to care for the first child.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

So my lib friend apparently did not unfriend me. She must have deleted her thread I posted on. Good amusement from her posts. She is a Social Worker. Keeps saying guns are the problem, not mentally disturbed people. So apparently all the guns are taking hostage people and making them shoot up schools and nightclubs and concerts? What a frickn idiot. With mental health professionals such as her, no serious discussion can take place on the what can be done. I think we need stricter rules and regulations and criteria in the mental health degree.

Lindley · Guru

Some of my lib. cousins are blaming trump for the shooting, never mind that columbine happened under Clinton and the grade school Kinderhook??? Happened under Obama.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lindley wrote:
Some of my lib. cousins are blaming trump for the shooting, never mind that columbine happened under Clinton and the grade school Kinderhook??? Happened under Obama.

Yep, leaving that alone. Not commenting on those stupid ignorant threads.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

Momala wrote:

Czech ~
You nailed it!
Now that we know where/how it started,
we should be able to work on fixing it.

Talked with my son today about fixing it. His comment - "It's to late". cry

He also agreed that it was my generation that destroyed the family, especially the two parent family home environment.

Breaks my heart.

His generation is left with the burning ashes of my generation. cry

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

just Czech wrote:
Momala wrote:

Czech ~
You nailed it!
Now that we know where/how it started,
we should be able to work on fixing it.

Talked with my son today about fixing it. His comment - "It's to late".
He also agreed that it was my generation that destroyed the family, especially the two parent family home environment.
Breaks my heart.
His generation is left with the burning ashes of my generation.

Our kids can fix it. They need to ignore the lib media and raise their kids how our parents were raised. Get back to basics.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Update: The FBI dropped the ball. When that post of "I want to be a professional school shooter was posted, WITH HIS NAME", the FBI claims that they "couldn't find him". I mean really, was he that hard to find? There aren't a lot of Nikolas Cruz who spell just with the K. He could have easily been found. Then he was reported to the FBI AGAIN in Jan and the FBI didnt' do SCHIT. So, yeah, See Something Say Something, and they freaking ignore it. All of the top dogs in the FBI should be fired. The blood of those kids is on their hands.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

The FBI admitted Friday that officers failed to follow protocol after they received a tip just last month that Florida school shooter Nikolas Cruz had a “desire to kill people.”

The tip, received on Jan. 5, 2018, was the second the bureau had received about a “Nikolas Cruz” in a little over three months. And yet neither one prevented the 19-year-old with violent ideations from legally buying an AR-15 and carrying out the deadliest school shooting since Sandy Hook.

A person close to Nikolas Cruz reported the tip to the FBI’s Public Access Line and “provided information about Cruz’s gun ownership, desire to kill people, erratic behavior, and disturbing social media posts, as well as the potential of him conducting a school shooting,” the FBI said in a statement Friday.

“Under established protocols, the information provided by the caller should have been assessed as a potential threat to life,” the statement continued. “We have determined that these protocols were not followed. The information was not provided to the Miami Field Office, and no further investigation was conducted at that time.”

A day earlier, Special FBI Agent Rob Lasky, who oversees Broward County, where the school is located and where Cruz was a student last year, revealed that the bureau had received an earlier tip, in September 2017. Someone on YouTube with the name “Nicholas Cruz” had replied on another user's post, “I’m going to become a professional school shooter.”

Ben Bennight, a Mississippi bail bondsman and video blogger, noticed the comment under one of his videos and immediately reported it to YouTube and the FBI’s Mississippi field office. But after interviewing Bennight and searching public records databases under what’s called a “simple assessment,” the agents concluded that they didn’t have probable cause to open up a preliminary investigation into the tip, the next step up after an assessment, according to Lasky.

YouTube also removed the comment from its site.

“We are still investigating the facts,” FBI Director Chris Wray said in a statement Friday. “I am committed to getting to the bottom of what happened in this particular matter, as well as reviewing our processes for responding to information that we receive from the public.

news.vice.com/en_us/article/ywqb9k/fbi-received-second-tip-about-parkland-florida-shooter-nikolas-cruz-desire-to-kill
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Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

2010 – 2017
According to CNN, which obtained documentation, police responded 39 times to emergency calls at Cruz’s home over a seven-year period. The codes included “mentally ill person,” “child/elderly abuse,” “domestic disturbance,” “missing person,” among others, CNN reports.

According to the New York Times, Cruz’s adoptive mother, Lynda Cruz, had a hard time dealing with his behavior and would sometimes call police to her home in an effort to get him under control before her death last year. But not all of the calls were placed by Cruz’s mother.

Read more: We spoke to a survivor of the Florida school shooting

One neighbor, Rhonda Roxburgh, told the Washington Post she called the cops on Cruz after he attacked her car about four years ago, slamming his backpack into it for no apparent reason. In response, the cops stationed an officer at the intersection for “several days” to ensure he didn’t “attack or throw rocks at cars,” the paper reports.

Neighbors interviewed by multiple outlets remember him as a menace to the neighborhood, telling reporters that Cruz had been caught shooting at a neighbor’s chickens, siccing his dogs on a neighbor’s pigs, stealing mail, vandalizing property, peeking in a neighbor’s windows, and trying to steal a neighbor’s bike.

FEBRUARY 2016
CBS reported, citing an anonymous law enforcement source, that in February 2016 the Broward County Sheriff's Office was notified that Cruz had posted a picture of himself holding guns on Instagram with a caption indicating that he was going to shoot his school.

FALL 2016
During the fall semester, the school found bullets in Cruz’s backpack after a fight and alerted teachers that Cruz was no longer allowed to carry a backpack to school as a safety precaution, Jim Gard, a math teacher at the school who has Cruz in his class, told reporters.

“We were told last year that he wasn’t allowed on campus with a backpack on him,” Gard said. “There were problems with him last year threatening students, and I guess he was asked to leave campus.”

Read more: How Florida students change the way we experience mass shootings

Cruz was also suspended for the infraction, a 16-year-old student who knew Cruz told the Miami Herald. One student told the AP the fight was with his ex-girlfriend’s new boyfriend, and that he had been abusive to her in their relationship.

JANUARY 19, 2017
Cruz was involved in an assault at school and was suspended for one day, according to ABC, which obtained documentation. The incident also reportedly prompted the school to order a threat assessment for him. It's not clear if such an assessment was conducted.

FEBRUARY 8, 2017
The school finally expelled Cruz for “disciplinary reasons.” His last day was Feb. 8, 2017, according to documents obtained by ABC. He bought the AR-15 used in the attack three days later.

The school has not commented further on what prompted his expulsion. One student told the New York Times it was for bringing knives to school. “Her friends have said he was known to always be mentally ill and would kill animals,” the student’s mother, Amanda Samaroo, told the Times.

Read more: The FBI knew Nikolas Cruz wanted to be a school shooter since a 2017 comment on a YouTube video was flagged

Others said the final straw was fighting and emotional outbursts in class.

Broward County Schools Superintendent Robert Runcie said Wednesday afternoon that the school did not have any explicit advance notice Cruz was a threat.

“We received no warnings,” Runcie said. “Potentially there could have been signs out there. But we didn’t have any warning or phone calls or threats that were made.”

SEPT. 24, 2017
A YouTube user named Ben Bennight sent a tip to the FBI reporting that another user named “Nikolas Cruz” had commented on one of his posts, saying, "I'm going to be a professional school shooter." He told BuzzFeed News the FBI came to his office to interview him the next day but that he did not hear from them again until a few hours after the shooting, when they called back asking for more information. Both times agents wanted to know if he knew anything about Cruz, which he says he did not.

Read more: “I don’t want your condolences”: Stoneman Douglas students demand action from Trump and Congress

The FBI has confirmed it received the tip but says it was unable to follow up at the time, because "no other information was included in the comment that would indicate a time, location, or true identity of the person who made the comment," special agent Robert Lasky said, despite the fact that the username contained Cruz’s real first and last name. Lasky added, "The FBI conducted database reviews, checks, but was unable to further identify the person who made the comment."

JANUARY 5, 2018
The FBI receives a tip providing "information about Cruz’s gun ownership, desire to kill people, erratic behavior, and disturbing social media posts, as well as the potential of him conducting a school shooting," but does not investigate it.

Read more: FBI admits it didn’t follow protocol after receiving tip about Parkland shooter’s “desire to kill”

“Under established protocols, the information provided by the caller should have been assessed as a potential threat to life,” the FBI admitted in a statement. “We have determined that these protocols were not followed. The information was not provided to the Miami Field Office, and no further investigation was conducted at that time.”

FEBRUARY 14, 2018
A school staffer saw Cruz “walking purposefully on campus,” and, knowing him to be a threat, radioed the threat, the Washington Post reports. Despite having two on-campus safety officers assigned to the school, no one was able to respond in time.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Trump is correct. The FBI needs a reboot. All agents should have to re apply for their jobs and management totally fired. The same warnings were offered up to the FBI about the Boston Marathon bombers ( I already posted that). Total fail of out national security.

Lindley · Guru

He should have been arrested the day he brought knives to school especially knowing his record and conduct. Maybe he would have been able to get the help he needed and the students would be alive today.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lindley wrote:
He should have been arrested the day he brought knives to school especially knowing his record and conduct. Maybe he would have been able to get the help he needed and the students would be alive today.

And why did that not happen? The liberal mindset that restricted the school from doing so.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Lindley wrote:
He should have been arrested the day he brought knives to school especially knowing his record and conduct. Maybe he would have been able to get the help he needed and the students would be alive today.
And why did that not happen? The liberal mindset that restricted the school from doing so.

And why was this NOT taken care of by the county attorney's office?

The school SHOULD have filled charges.

The ball was dropped by every single one of these entities.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Well, we dont' really know what the school did entirely because schools are not not allowed to say. And, it's all hush hush. And, if a kid has an IEP, then the rules don't really apply in to them in the same way either.