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Female pastor to receive $500K payout after being ousted over harassment claims for 'taking members of church to an adult store and buying one a $200 bunny-shaped sex toy' during a religious conference

Reverend Dr. Amy Butler was removed from her position at Riverside Church

She was ousted over claims she visited an adult store with church members

The visit allegedly happened during a religious conference trip in Minneapolis

 But she will receive at least a $500,000 parting payout from the church

By ALISHA BUAYA FOR MAILONLINE and MAXINE SHEN FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

 

PUBLISHED: 01:52 EDT, 13 July 2019 | UPDATED: 02:08 EDT, 13 July 2019

 

  

 

 

 

The female pastor ousted after complaints she visited an adult store with members of her church and purchased sex toys for them will receive at least a $500,000 parting payout.  

 

Reverend Dr. Amy Butler, the first woman to lead the renowned Riverside Church in Manhattan, New York, was removed from her senior position following harassment claims stemming from an incident that occurred during a religious conference trip in Minneapolis in May, the New York Post reported Thursday.  

 

During the trip, Butler allegedly took two assistant ministers - a single mother and a gay man - and a female churchgoer to adult store Smitten Kitten, where she supposedly purchased sex toys for herself, the female congregant and a $200 Beaded Rabbit vibrator for her female assistant minister as a 40th birthday gift, which the woman said she felt pressured to accept even though she didn't want it. 

 

Reverend Dr. Amy Butler was removed from her senior position over harassment claims after she allegedly visited an adult store with members of her NYC-based Riverside Church +7

Reverend Dr. Amy Butler was removed from her senior position over harassment claims after she allegedly visited an adult store with members of her NYC-based Riverside Church

 

The incident is claimed to have happened during a religious conference trip in Minneapolis in May when she allegedly took two assistant ministers - a single mother and a gay man - and a female churchgoer to adult store Smitten Kitten (pictured) +7

 

A formal harassment complaint was filed days after the shopping trip and the church's lawyer investigated the claims made - leading to the pastor's ousting, as Riverside Church said that they would not be renewing her contract.  

 

 

 

The New York Post now reports that Butler will receive a hefty exit package worth at least half a million dollars.    

 

Butler will receive 12 months' worth of her salary - which was $250,000 a year - plus a six-month housing allowance, valued at $48,000. The church will also be putting in $59,000 for three years of annual retirement contributions, as stipulated by her contract. 

 

In addition to all of that, Butler will also receive a $100,000 'separation payment,' which includes unused vacation day payments and $10,000 worth of lawyer fee coverage. 

 

It was alleged that Butler (pictured) - the first woman to lead the congregation - purchased sex toys for herself and the female congregant. +7

Butler (pictured) was also said to have purchased a $200 Beaded Rabbit vibrator for her female assistant minister as a 40th birthday gift +7

It was alleged that Butler (pictured) - the first woman to lead the congregation - purchased sex toys for herself, the female congregant and a $200 Beaded Rabbit vibrator for her female assistant minister as a 40th birthday gift

 

Butler (pictured) is said to have offered to buy the male assistant minister a sex toy, too, but he declined the offer +7

 

 

 

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All told, she is said to be getting $594,530 out of church, which has until July 31 to pay out the money leftover from her contract which expired on June 30. 

 

Emails obtained by the New York Post revealed that the Riverside Church council had to vote to approve the payment agreement, but that one employee did raise concerns about tying up so much of the church's operating budget, which is used to cover payroll. 

 

Neither the church nor Butler have commented on the payout or the incident, which was investigated and substantiated by a third-party investigator, sources told the newspaper.   

 

A source also told the publication the assistant ministers were uncomfortable and were afraid of 'professional retaliation' if they did not go to the sex toy shop, despite being told by the pastor they did not have to join them. 

 

In addition to buying the sex toys for the females in the group, the pastor - who was hired in 2014 and was the first woman to lead the congregation - is claimed to have also offered to buy the male assistant minister a toy, but he declined.  

 

Butler's hefty payout is said to include a full year of her $250,000 salary, a $48,000 housing allowance and $59,000 worth of retirement contributions, among other amounts +7

Butler's hefty payout is said to include a full year of her $250,000 salary, a $48,000 housing allowance and $59,000 worth of retirement contributions, among other amounts

 

All told, Riverside Church is expected to pay her $594,530, which will come out of the church's operating budget and is due on July 31 +7

All told, Riverside Church is expected to pay her $594,530, which will come out of the church's operating budget and is due on July 31

 

At the register, Butler allegedly said 'is this a church business expense?' and pulled out a credit - it is not know if she used the church's card to make the purchase. 

 

Butler's supporters claimed she lost her job for speaking up about sexual harassment in the church, in particular an incident where she alleged a former member of church council harassed her, the New York Times reported.

 

But a source said both Butler and Riverside Church agreed to part ways. 

 

The announcement was made in a joint statement on the church's website. 

 

'Rev. Dr. Amy Butler and the Riverside Church Council are announcing that after five years of leadership, Pastor Amy will not be renewing her contract as Senior Minister. As Pastor Amy’s contract has approached its end, both she and our congregational leadership have been prayerfully discerning how best to fulfill the work of God in the world to which they are called,' the statement said in part.  

 

Pastor Amy Butler also said in the statement: 'It has been one of the greatest honors of my life to have spent five years leading the Riverside congregation. I love that beautiful, beloved congregation and I believe that when we love each other, we can change the world.'

 

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7243255/New-York-City-church-female-pastor-gets-500K-payout-ousted-harassment-claims.html



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Why is this article so choppy? I read each paragraph 3 times.

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Why is this article so choppy? I read each paragraph 3 times.

  Because LGS has the worst copy/paste skill ever.

 Got it.  Pathological anti-clutter!



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I guess I've never understood a few things.

1. Pastors are human, too. Just like every single person in their congregation, and therefore, subject to sin. Just like everyone else.

2. Why pastors, and other church officials, have contracts. The only one who ever got a salary was the pastor, his secetary, and the church accountant. Even one else volunteered their time. When a pastor left, he got zero moneies, other than a love offering.

 

As to the OP, is anyone really surprised?  The whole world is becoming a cess pool.



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Why is this article so choppy? I read each paragraph 3 times.

  Because LGS has the worst copy/paste skill ever.

 That's true.  But Tig at the END OF THE ARTICLE IS A LINK THAT YOU MAY OPT TO USE INSTEAD for your reading pleasure.  biggrin



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But by then I'm already at the end! I don't want to read it again!

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lilyofcourse wrote:

I guess I've never understood a few things.

1. Pastors are human, too. Just like every single person in their congregation, and therefore, subject to sin. Just like everyone else.

2. Why pastors, and other church officials, have contracts. The only one who ever got a salary was the pastor, his secetary, and the church accountant. Even one else volunteered their time. When a pastor left, he got zero moneies, other than a love offering.

 

As to the OP, is anyone really surprised?  The whole world is becoming a cess pool.

 Uh...why is buying s sex toy a sin?  

For me, a woman being a pastor is a bigger concern.  In the Bible, pastors are men.



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lilyofcourse wrote:

I guess I've never understood a few things.

1. Pastors are human, too. Just like every single person in their congregation, and therefore, subject to sin. Just like everyone else.

2. Why pastors, and other church officials, have contracts. The only one who ever got a salary was the pastor, his secetary, and the church accountant. Even one else volunteered their time. When a pastor left, he got zero moneies, other than a love offering.

 

As to the OP, is anyone really surprised?  The whole world is becoming a cess pool.

 Uh...why is buying s sex toy a sin?  

For me, a woman being a pastor is a bigger concern.  In the Bible, pastors are men.

 I don't that it is a sin, I'm just saying they are human, with human failures and shortcomings. 

As for women preachers, women are heavily used in the Bible to deliver the most important information. 

There are a lot of women used in the Bible.

 



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I guess I've never understood a few things.

1. Pastors are human, too. Just like every single person in their congregation, and therefore, subject to sin. Just like everyone else.

2. Why pastors, and other church officials, have contracts. The only one who ever got a salary was the pastor, his secetary, and the church accountant. Even one else volunteered their time. When a pastor left, he got zero moneies, other than a love offering.

 

As to the OP, is anyone really surprised?  The whole world is becoming a cess pool.

 Pastors are human, too, yes, but they are held to a higher standard.  The Bible explicitly tells people that if they are to be teacher's of God's word, they are supposed to be an example to others in their life.  Don't want that burden, do not put yourself in such a role.

 

James 3:1

Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we will incur a stricter judgment.

James doesn’t sound fair: those who teach are warned of a higher standard—a stricter judgment.  Why the extra scrutiny?

Simply put, teachers deal with words, concepts, ideas, and doctrines that will shape the thinking and direct the lives of their students. 

James refers to a didaskalos (teacher), and the word he chooses comes right from the context of a Jewish synagogue.  The rabbi, in Jewish tradition, was a teacher who studied the Law and taught his students how it applied to everyday life. He was the most highly revered person in the synagogue, next to the men who served on Israel’s Supreme Court, the Sanhedrin.

This was quite a heady position.  In fact, Old Testament scholar William Barclay explained that the rabbi was treated in a way that was likely to ruin his character. The very title Rabbi literally meant “Great one.”  So everywhere he went, people greeted him as such. Imagine everyone telling you that you are the “Great One.”  That almost guarantees not only pride but an overabundance of applicants for the position of rabbi!

James is writing to Jewish teachers in the Church who are possibly feeling some personal sense of glory or pride from their high calling. These are the early days of church history; the transition between synagogue life and church life hasn’t been fully developed.  That explains why James issues a stern warning for his fellow pastors and teachers in the Church.  

James, effectively, says to us as well, “Do you want a platform? Do you want the attention and prestige that accompanies the role of being a teacher of God’s Word?  Fine.  Just don’t forget that one day you’ll be held to a higher accountability than those you taught.”

The Apostle Paul echoes this same challenge as he exhorts Pastor Timothy to handle the Word of God accurately and with great care (2 Timothy 2:15).

But what exactly does James mean by his warning that teachers will incur a stricter judgment? He is referring to the Bema Seat of Christ, where every believer will one day stand and be rewarded for their service to Christ. This is not a place where we will be judged for our sin—Christ has already paid the penalty for that—it’s where we will give an account for how we used our lives and gifts for God’s glory (2 Corinthians 5:10).

So James is reminding those of us who have authority over others that we will be given an additional evaluation on a higher standard: did we practice what we taught or preached? 

It’s one thing to be a student and learn biblical truth and refuse to obey it.  It’s quite another to be a teacher and disobey the truth we have just taught to others.  All who dished out the truth will give an account for how they lived out the truth.

Scottish Reformer John Knox was so awed and burdened by the responsibility of the office he was just beginning that, when he stood in the pulpit to preach his very first sermon, he began weeping uncontrollably.  He was overwhelmed with the gravity of what he was about to do. It was more than preaching the truth . . . it was living the truth.

Knox’s attitude will prepare us well as we consider both our high calling and higher accountability . . . it’s just around the corner at the coming Bema Seat of Christ.

Prayer Point: Pray that the Lord will impress upon your heart the attitude of John Knox as you prepare to teach His Word to others.  Also, thank Him for His grace in using imperfect messengers to deliver His perfect message to the world.

 

Extra Refreshment: Read Paul’s first chapter written to Titus; notice the qualifications he gives for pastors and teachers. These are actually wonderful goals for every believer.



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lilyofcourse wrote:
Domestic Engineer wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

I guess I've never understood a few things.

1. Pastors are human, too. Just like every single person in their congregation, and therefore, subject to sin. Just like everyone else.

2. Why pastors, and other church officials, have contracts. The only one who ever got a salary was the pastor, his secetary, and the church accountant. Even one else volunteered their time. When a pastor left, he got zero moneies, other than a love offering.

 

As to the OP, is anyone really surprised?  The whole world is becoming a cess pool.

 Uh...why is buying s sex toy a sin?  

For me, a woman being a pastor is a bigger concern.  In the Bible, pastors are men.

 I don't that it is a sin, I'm just saying they are human, with human failures and shortcomings. 

As for women preachers, women are heavily used in the Bible to deliver the most important information. 

There are a lot of women used in the Bible.

 

 But they are to teach other women - not men.  I Timothy 2:11-12

 

Women have a great many important roles, and but being the pastor of a church is not one of them.  

 

 



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I agree wholeheartedly that the exit payment is absurd. Especially because the why was morally based.

If I was a member of that church and that much of my tithes went to that instead of helping the needy, I think I'd be finding a new church.

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Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Domestic Engineer wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

I guess I've never understood a few things.

1. Pastors are human, too. Just like every single person in their congregation, and therefore, subject to sin. Just like everyone else.

2. Why pastors, and other church officials, have contracts. The only one who ever got a salary was the pastor, his secetary, and the church accountant. Even one else volunteered their time. When a pastor left, he got zero moneies, other than a love offering.

 

As to the OP, is anyone really surprised?  The whole world is becoming a cess pool.

 Uh...why is buying s sex toy a sin?  

For me, a woman being a pastor is a bigger concern.  In the Bible, pastors are men.

 I don't that it is a sin, I'm just saying they are human, with human failures and shortcomings. 

As for women preachers, women are heavily used in the Bible to deliver the most important information. 

There are a lot of women used in the Bible.

 

 But they are to teach other women - not men.  I Timothy 2:11-12

 

Women have a great many important roles, and but being the pastor of a church is not one of them.  

 

 

  I agree wholeheartedly,  The Bible clearly explains each role men and women have. It has nothing to do with women being less then men.  



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Lindley wrote:
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lilyofcourse wrote:
Domestic Engineer wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

I guess I've never understood a few things.

1. Pastors are human, too. Just like every single person in their congregation, and therefore, subject to sin. Just like everyone else.

2. Why pastors, and other church officials, have contracts. The only one who ever got a salary was the pastor, his secetary, and the church accountant. Even one else volunteered their time. When a pastor left, he got zero moneies, other than a love offering.

 

As to the OP, is anyone really surprised?  The whole world is becoming a cess pool.

 Uh...why is buying s sex toy a sin?  

For me, a woman being a pastor is a bigger concern.  In the Bible, pastors are men.

 I don't that it is a sin, I'm just saying they are human, with human failures and shortcomings. 

As for women preachers, women are heavily used in the Bible to deliver the most important information. 

There are a lot of women used in the Bible.

 

 But they are to teach other women - not men.  I Timothy 2:11-12

 

Women have a great many important roles, and but being the pastor of a church is not one of them.  

 

 

  I agree wholeheartedly,  The Bible clearly explains each role men and women have. It has nothing to do with women being less then men.  

 Agree to disagree.

 



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