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I don't know in other states but here in MA rioting is excluded from business owner insurance policies. Those small shops ruined on Newbury Street are screwed.


 Any idea why?



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No haven't heard why. Something might have happened in the past. Any update I'll let you know.

They will all have business interruption coverage. That may help

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I don't know in other states but here in MA rioting is excluded from business owner insurance policies. Those small shops ruined on Newbury Street are screwed.


 Any idea why?


Probably for the same reason flood insurance isn't available to some. Insurance companies don't want to part with their money! 



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I don't know in other states but here in MA rioting is excluded from business owner insurance policies. Those small shops ruined on Newbury Street are screwed.


 Any idea why?


Probably for the same reason flood insurance isn't available to some. Insurance companies don't want to part with their money! 


 And also insurance won't kick in due to war damage.  After 911 the feds paid the insurance companies to cover damage.



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You mean the U.S. isn't the only country where there is race disparity? So it's not because of our great great great great great great grandparents owning slaves?


 Yeah. 


 Colonialism. Same like here.



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Oh geez. “Colonialism”. Another liberal buzz word. Gag

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I don't know in other states but here in MA rioting is excluded from business owner insurance policies. Those small shops ruined on Newbury Street are screwed.


 Any idea why?


Probably for the same reason flood insurance isn't available to some. Insurance companies don't want to part with their money! 


 And also insurance won't kick in due to war damage.  After 911 the feds paid the insurance companies to cover damage.


Did someone declare war? lol Insurance companies set their own guidelines to ensure they pay out as little as possible. 



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No haven't heard why. Something might have happened in the past. Any update I'll let you know.

They will all have business interruption coverage. That may help


 That may help.  But, going forward, if there a big payouts, all future premiums on those business owners and potential new business owners will skyrocket which may prevent them from being able to operate and will also be far more costly for new businesses to get started ensuring even less opportunities for the very people they pretend to care  about.



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Forever Sunshine wrote:
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I don't know in other states but here in MA rioting is excluded from business owner insurance policies. Those small shops ruined on Newbury Street are screwed.


 Any idea why?


Probably for the same reason flood insurance isn't available to some. Insurance companies don't want to part with their money! 


 And also insurance won't kick in due to war damage.  After 911 the feds paid the insurance companies to cover damage.


Did someone declare war? lol Insurance companies set their own guidelines to ensure they pay out as little as possible. 


 Not sure what you don't understand.  Lots of insurance coverage doesn't exist for wide spread destruction that is not natural disasters.  Although insurance companies don't have to pay due to water damage when there is a hurricane, hence why there is a federal program for that.  Did you know you aren't even covered for earthquakes unless you have a rider on your policy?  Premiums would be unaffordable if all these things were covered.  It actually protects most policy holders. 



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Oh geez. “Colonialism”. Another liberal buzz word. Gag


 You don't believe there were colonies?  Or that they massacred the local nations?  Or that they created giant plantations, farms, homes, whatever and forced people from other countries to work on them without pay?  Or without the freedom to come and go?  That they didn't eventually build roads and railways where they used those same people from other countries to do the dangerous work (like set the dynamite) because they were expendable?  Yup.  Buzz word.  Perhaps you'd prefer Settlers?



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Oh geez. “Colonialism”. Another liberal buzz word. Gag


 You don't believe there were colonies?  Or that they massacred the local nations?  Or that they created giant plantations, farms, homes, whatever and forced people from other countries to work on them without pay?  Or without the freedom to come and go?  That they didn't eventually build roads and railways where they used those same people from other countries to do the dangerous work (like set the dynamite) because they were expendable?  Yup.  Buzz word.  Perhaps you'd prefer Settlers?


How about living in this century?



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
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Oh geez. “Colonialism”. Another liberal buzz word. Gag


 You don't believe there were colonies?  Or that they massacred the local nations?  Or that they created giant plantations, farms, homes, whatever and forced people from other countries to work on them without pay?  Or without the freedom to come and go?  That they didn't eventually build roads and railways where they used those same people from other countries to do the dangerous work (like set the dynamite) because they were expendable?  Yup.  Buzz word.  Perhaps you'd prefer Settlers?


How about living in this century?


 Ummmm.



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 It's not about teaching people that they ARE inferior.  It's teaching the understanding about why they are TREATED inferior.  Its oppression by the systems - recognizing that they are not getting treated the same because there is something wrong with THEM (unless their actually is, on a smaller scale) but that the system makes decisions and behaves in a way that treats them as being inferior.  It's actually the opposite of brainswashing someone about making them feel guilty and apologize for their skin.  This person needs some education.  Just because someone is black doesn't mean they understand all concepts.  Just like any other race.



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The public schools here are going to teach about white privilege and make white kids feel bad. If you were the mother of two white boys, you would be upset, too.

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The public schools here are going to teach about white privilege and make white kids feel bad. If you were the mother of two white boys, you would be upset, too.


 I agree, I would hate to think my grandchildren would be made to feel like they are at fault because they are white, for that matter a black child isn’t as good as a white child.  That saying brings up bad feelings on both sides and continues to cause divisions.



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The public schools here are going to teach about white privilege and make white kids feel bad. If you were the mother of two white boys, you would be upset, too.


 Yep, this is extremely sad, the bucketing of people into different skin / background.  It actually fuels racism.



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Oh geez. “Colonialism”. Another liberal buzz word. Gag


 You don't believe there were colonies?  Or that they massacred the local nations?  Or that they created giant plantations, farms, homes, whatever and forced people from other countries to work on them without pay?  Or without the freedom to come and go?  That they didn't eventually build roads and railways where they used those same people from other countries to do the dangerous work (like set the dynamite) because they were expendable?  Yup.  Buzz word.  Perhaps you'd prefer Settlers?


How about living in this century?


 Ummmm.


 Thats your response???



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So today I drove past the corner with the peaceful protesters. There were at least 30 people out there. All but two were white.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
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Oh geez. “Colonialism”. Another liberal buzz word. Gag


 You don't believe there were colonies?  Or that they massacred the local nations?  Or that they created giant plantations, farms, homes, whatever and forced people from other countries to work on them without pay?  Or without the freedom to come and go?  That they didn't eventually build roads and railways where they used those same people from other countries to do the dangerous work (like set the dynamite) because they were expendable?  Yup.  Buzz word.  Perhaps you'd prefer Settlers?


How about living in this century?


 Ummmm.


 Thats your response???


 Wasn't sure how else to respond to a nonsensical post.



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True. You are babbling nonsense.

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So today I drove past the corner with the peaceful protesters. There were at least 30 people out there. All but two were white.


 It's the cause du jour.   Makes them feel good about themselves.  I think it's patronizing. 



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I will not apologize for the actions of other people. I don't care which century those actions took place.


 Nobody needs to apologize for anything. THat's an outdated sentiment. It's simply about understanding the premises on which Western culture was built.  And not perpetuating it.



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So today I drove past the corner with the peaceful protesters. There were at least 30 people out there. All but two were white.


 It's the cause du jour.   Makes them feel good about themselves.  I think it's patronizing. 


 Yup.  The amount of "teaching" and "training" about this in the clinical circles is hypocritical.  Like, now you care?  



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Most the people are young. Maybe 20’s. I think they just want to be a part of something, anything.

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I will not apologize for the actions of other people. I don't care which century those actions took place.


 Nobody needs to apologize for anything. THat's an outdated sentiment. It's simply about understanding the premises on which Western culture was built.  And not perpetuating it.


 I have not and will not own a slave.  A cute tall, dark and handsome one to bring me drinks poolside would be nice, however.

Here, they are not understanding the premise.  They are re-writing history.  Pretending the civil war never happened (which was only maybe a 1/4th having to do with slavery-it was so much more) because it's "upsetting".



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So today I drove past the corner with the peaceful protesters. There were at least 30 people out there. All but two were white.


 It's the cause du jour.   Makes them feel good about themselves.  I think it's patronizing. 


 BFF was telling me about a video where there was a young white girl who walked into a protest for Black Lives Matter.  They stopped her and told her that she needed to get down on one knee and apologize for being white.  So she did.  No way no how.

One of the reasons I can't take BLM seriously is that they don't REALLY care about black lives.  They pick and choose the black lives they choose to be incensed about.  Just recently there was a 77 year old retired black cop that was shot and killed trying to stop someone from looting a TV.  Not one word was heard about him.  No one got angry that he was killed unjustly.  No one protested on his behalf.  His death was largely ignored.  Where is all the attention for him?  Last month a 7 year old black girl was shot by a black man.  No one protested her death.  No one talked about how unjust that was.  Nope, BLM just picks and chooses who they decide to turn into a martyr.



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I read a story a week or so ago about a group of white protesters, who knelt to a group of blacks, who repeatedly asked the blacks for forgiveness.

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Idiots. Unless they did something wrong.

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So today I drove past the corner with the peaceful protesters. There were at least 30 people out there. All but two were white.


 It's the cause du jour.   Makes them feel good about themselves.  I think it's patronizing. 


 BFF was telling me about a video where there was a young white girl who walked into a protest for Black Lives Matter.  They stopped her and told her that she needed to get down on one knee and apologize for being white.  So she did.  No way no how.

One of the reasons I can't take BLM seriously is that they don't REALLY care about black lives.  They pick and choose the black lives they choose to be incensed about.  Just recently there was a 77 year old retired black cop that was shot and killed trying to stop someone from looting a TV.  Not one word was heard about him.  No one got angry that he was killed unjustly.  No one protested on his behalf.  His death was largely ignored.  Where is all the attention for him?  Last month a 7 year old black girl was shot by a black man.  No one protested her death.  No one talked about how unjust that was.  Nope, BLM just picks and chooses who they decide to turn into a martyr.


 Chicago alone young black men are murdered daily and no one cries for justice for them, black officer protecting a court house was shot in the head by a drive by shootin, they vandalized a civil war monument that was to honor a black military unit. They talk about being ignorant of their history and didn’t even know or cared what the monumen stood for.



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The rioters and looters don't care what they destroy as long as they can disrupt and cause damage wherever they can. I'm finding it difficult to watch as cities allow this to continue without doing whatever they can to gain control . . . not of the peaceful protesters but of the instigators who insist on looting, arson, etc.

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I don’t know if New York City could ever recover from this.

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The rioters and looters don't care what they destroy as long as they can disrupt and cause damage wherever they can. I'm finding it difficult to watch as cities allow this to continue without doing whatever they can to gain control . . . not of the peaceful protesters but of the instigators who insist on looting, arson, etc.


I say send the military in with orders to shoot and kill.  Honestly, if you're looting and rioting and setting stuff on fire you're NOT a law abiding citizen.



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The rioters and looters don't care what they destroy as long as they can disrupt and cause damage wherever they can. I'm finding it difficult to watch as cities allow this to continue without doing whatever they can to gain control . . . not of the peaceful protesters but of the instigators who insist on looting, arson, etc.


I say send the military in with orders to shoot and kill.  Honestly, if you're looting and rioting and setting stuff on fire you're NOT a law abiding citizen.


Oh I totally agree. When Trump mentioned sending in the military, I knew he meant after the rioters, looters and arsonists, not the peaceful protesters. If the cities cannot get control then I'm all for sending in the military! 



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I don’t know if New York City could ever recover from this.


 They really don't deserve too.  People should move of of there in droves.



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Dallas removed a statue of a former Texas Ranger today. He was deemed "offensive".

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Dallas removed a statue of a former Texas Ranger today. He was deemed "offensive".


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I don’t know if New York City could ever recover from this.


 They really don't deserve too.  People should move of of there in droves.


 People in NY City don't deserve to recover?  What in gods name did they do to offend you so personally!?



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 Stupid.



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I don’t know if New York City could ever recover from this.


 They really don't deserve too.  People should move of of there in droves.


 People in NY City don't deserve to recover?  What in gods name did they do to offend you so personally!?

Their elected officials made very poor decisions during the corona pandemic that caused a lot of infected people with the virus and wouldn’t call up the national guard to help the police just to defy Trump.

 



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Lindley wrote:
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I don’t know if New York City could ever recover from this.


 They really don't deserve too.  People should move of of there in droves.


 People in NY City don't deserve to recover?  What in gods name did they do to offend you so personally!?

Their elected officials made very poor decisions during the corona pandemic that caused a lot of infected people with the virus and wouldn’t call up the national guard to help the police just to defy Trump.

 


 "They don't deserve to recover" seems a little over the top.  I can't imagine a situation in which I would hope that someone/thing couldn't get back on their/it's feet after a disaster.



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Lindley wrote:
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I don’t know if New York City could ever recover from this.


 They really don't deserve too.  People should move of of there in droves.


 People in NY City don't deserve to recover?  What in gods name did they do to offend you so personally!?

Their elected officials made very poor decisions during the corona pandemic that caused a lot of infected people with the virus and wouldn’t call up the national guard to help the police just to defy Trump.

 


But the people of NYC don't deserve to not recover because of the poor decisions of their state and local gov'ts. VOTE is the people's weapon. Vote out those who made the poor choices. 



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