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I think it's plain out anarchy. Or some weird cult that's going to wind up with a charismatic leader and then a Waco style demise. Have they even thought about where their food is coming from? Are they paying heat, electricity, whatever? How are they making money? Be funny when the electricity and phones all get cut off. That actually might be the best way to get rid of them. You want to be autonomous? Ok. Here - we'll help you outline your border. Customs will be located at the exits and if you climb the walls you will be considered illegal.


 You believe in walls?  



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I think it's plain out anarchy. Or some weird cult that's going to wind up with a charismatic leader and then a Waco style demise. Have they even thought about where their food is coming from? Are they paying heat, electricity, whatever? How are they making money? Be funny when the electricity and phones all get cut off. That actually might be the best way to get rid of them. You want to be autonomous? Ok. Here - we'll help you outline your border. Customs will be located at the exits and if you climb the walls you will be considered illegal.


 You believe in walls?  


 I thought that was how the Americans handle stuff.



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I think it's plain out anarchy. Or some weird cult that's going to wind up with a charismatic leader and then a Waco style demise. Have they even thought about where their food is coming from? Are they paying heat, electricity, whatever? How are they making money? Be funny when the electricity and phones all get cut off. That actually might be the best way to get rid of them. You want to be autonomous? Ok. Here - we'll help you outline your border. Customs will be located at the exits and if you climb the walls you will be considered illegal.


 Best idea.  They have already called for an ambulance and police due to injury, 



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Tignanello wrote:
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I think it's plain out anarchy. Or some weird cult that's going to wind up with a charismatic leader and then a Waco style demise. Have they even thought about where their food is coming from? Are they paying heat, electricity, whatever? How are they making money? Be funny when the electricity and phones all get cut off. That actually might be the best way to get rid of them. You want to be autonomous? Ok. Here - we'll help you outline your border. Customs will be located at the exits and if you climb the walls you will be considered illegal.


 You believe in walls?  


 I thought that was how the Americans handle stuff.


 Actually it is how most countries handle "it"



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Tignanello wrote:
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I think it's plain out anarchy. Or some weird cult that's going to wind up with a charismatic leader and then a Waco style demise. Have they even thought about where their food is coming from? Are they paying heat, electricity, whatever? How are they making money? Be funny when the electricity and phones all get cut off. That actually might be the best way to get rid of them. You want to be autonomous? Ok. Here - we'll help you outline your border. Customs will be located at the exits and if you climb the walls you will be considered illegal.


 You believe in walls?  


 I thought that was how the Americans handle stuff.


 Actually it is how most countries handle "it"


 I've travelled pretty extensively in europe and asia, and I don't think I've ever seen a country walled off.  Berlin, sure, but that's done.  Great wall of China?  Yes, but not really.  Customs and stuff yes absolutely.  Had my passport scrutinized many times.  I've never seen a wall.



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I've seen one in Norwich, England. I understand there's one between Greece and Turkey. Turkey and Syria. Turkey and Bulgaria. I've seen a beautiful one around Vatican City. I understand there is the West Bank Wall built by Israel.

Walls are used and are effective.

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I think it is only Turkey & Syria. Greece and the Vatican city have walls that date back to early centuries. I don't think they count anymore. There is no customs to get into Vatican city.

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No customs, but there is a wall. We're talking walls, not customs. And an entrance point you have to wait in line to get in. Walls matter, and walls count, whether you "think" they do or not. When your country borders a country like Mexico where people are permitted to pass through to get to your country, then you have standing to argue the importance of walls. Until then, you don't know crap about it.

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No customs, but there is a wall. We're talking walls, not customs. And an entrance point you have to wait in line to get in. Walls matter, and walls count, whether you "think" they do or not. When your country borders a country like Mexico where people are permitted to pass through to get to your country, then you have standing to argue the importance of walls. Until then, you don't know crap about it.


 Um, I'm not arguing the not-importance of walls.  I'm simply saying that very few other countries do this, while CHAZ should.  I don't think living in a country that borders mexico gives one the only power to talk about border walls.  Put a wall around CHAZ.  It's what they want.  Problem solved.

 



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No customs, but there is a wall. We're talking walls, not customs. And an entrance point you have to wait in line to get in. Walls matter, and walls count, whether you "think" they do or not. When your country borders a country like Mexico where people are permitted to pass through to get to your country, then you have standing to argue the importance of walls. Until then, you don't know crap about it.


 Um, I'm not arguing the not-importance of walls.  I'm simply saying that very few other countries do this, while CHAZ should.  I don't think living in a country that borders mexico gives one the only power to talk about border walls.  Put a wall around CHAZ.  It's what they want.  Problem solved.

 


 Problem solved?  So the people who live there and own property and businesses should just acquiesce?



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No customs, but there is a wall. We're talking walls, not customs. And an entrance point you have to wait in line to get in. Walls matter, and walls count, whether you "think" they do or not. When your country borders a country like Mexico where people are permitted to pass through to get to your country, then you have standing to argue the importance of walls. Until then, you don't know crap about it.


 Um, I'm not arguing the not-importance of walls.  I'm simply saying that very few other countries do this, while CHAZ should.  I don't think living in a country that borders mexico gives one the only power to talk about border walls.  Put a wall around CHAZ.  It's what they want.  Problem solved.

 


 Problem solved?  So the people who live there and own property and businesses should just acquiesce?


 No, the anarchists who invaded it should experience what they're asking for.  If they're autonomous they have to figure out their own legal systems, first aid systems, governing body, food import/export, etc, etc, etc,.  The people who own property and business are casualties here.  Should we let them be held hostage for longer?



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A lot of other countries put up walls. Read your history. Hurry, before it's all been re-written, burned, destroyed, and denied.

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How many countries have border barriers?
There are a total of about 70 border barriers worldwide, Elisabeth Vallet, director of the Center for Geopolitical Studies at the University of Quebec-Montreal, told Journalist's Resource. Her research demonstrates how popular these structures have become — there were about 15 of them in 1990. Feb 5, 2019

journalistsresource.org/studies/government/immigration/border-walls-barriers-fences-research/

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A lot of other countries put up walls. Read your history. Hurry, before it's all been re-written, burned, destroyed, and denied.


 She probably wants you to Google that for her.



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A lot of other countries put up walls. Read your history. Hurry, before it's all been re-written, burned, destroyed, and denied.


 She probably wants you to Google that for her.


 Huh?



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who is going to apologize to me for the way the Irish and Scottish were treated for 1000 years?


 Scottish and Irish aren't races....


 The entire black race was not slaves either.  Yes, some were selected to be and brought over here.  


 "selected" = kidnapped, beaten, raped, stolen, dragged, killed, etc....  And yes, black is a race.  (there is an official term but good enough)/  You make it sound like they won a contest!


 Actually, they likely lost a war.  Africans sold losing tribes into slavery.  



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Tignanello wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
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No customs, but there is a wall. We're talking walls, not customs. And an entrance point you have to wait in line to get in. Walls matter, and walls count, whether you "think" they do or not. When your country borders a country like Mexico where people are permitted to pass through to get to your country, then you have standing to argue the importance of walls. Until then, you don't know crap about it.


 Um, I'm not arguing the not-importance of walls.  I'm simply saying that very few other countries do this, while CHAZ should.  I don't think living in a country that borders mexico gives one the only power to talk about border walls.  Put a wall around CHAZ.  It's what they want.  Problem solved.

 


 Problem solved?  So the people who live there and own property and businesses should just acquiesce?


 No, the anarchists who invaded it should experience what they're asking for.  If they're autonomous they have to figure out their own legal systems, first aid systems, governing body, food import/export, etc, etc, etc,.  The people who own property and business are casualties here.  Should we let them be held hostage for longer?


 What Chaz is doing is no different than what the South attempted to do before the civil war.  Declare themselves autonomous and not subject to government rule.  

And the business owners are going to be casualties of that.  I, for one, don't think we should let it happen, but this is a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation for Trump.  The local leaders have to ask him for help.  They are letting this continue.  And those are the elected officials.  The people need to be more careful about who they put in charge.  



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Tignanello wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
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No customs, but there is a wall. We're talking walls, not customs. And an entrance point you have to wait in line to get in. Walls matter, and walls count, whether you "think" they do or not. When your country borders a country like Mexico where people are permitted to pass through to get to your country, then you have standing to argue the importance of walls. Until then, you don't know crap about it.


 Um, I'm not arguing the not-importance of walls.  I'm simply saying that very few other countries do this, while CHAZ should.  I don't think living in a country that borders mexico gives one the only power to talk about border walls.  Put a wall around CHAZ.  It's what they want.  Problem solved.

 


 Problem solved?  So the people who live there and own property and businesses should just acquiesce?


 No, the anarchists who invaded it should experience what they're asking for.  If they're autonomous they have to figure out their own legal systems, first aid systems, governing body, food import/export, etc, etc, etc,.  The people who own property and business are casualties here.  Should we let them be held hostage for longer?


 What Chaz is doing is no different than what the South attempted to do before the civil war.  Declare themselves autonomous and not subject to government rule.  

And the business owners are going to be casualties of that.  I, for one, don't think we should let it happen, but this is a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation for Trump.  The local leaders have to ask him for help.  They are letting this continue.  And those are the elected officials.  The people need to be more careful about who they put in charge.  


I may have already posted this,, but I believe the mayor is in on it 



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Tignanello wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
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No customs, but there is a wall. We're talking walls, not customs. And an entrance point you have to wait in line to get in. Walls matter, and walls count, whether you "think" they do or not. When your country borders a country like Mexico where people are permitted to pass through to get to your country, then you have standing to argue the importance of walls. Until then, you don't know crap about it.


 Um, I'm not arguing the not-importance of walls.  I'm simply saying that very few other countries do this, while CHAZ should.  I don't think living in a country that borders mexico gives one the only power to talk about border walls.  Put a wall around CHAZ.  It's what they want.  Problem solved.

 


 Problem solved?  So the people who live there and own property and businesses should just acquiesce?


 No, the anarchists who invaded it should experience what they're asking for.  If they're autonomous they have to figure out their own legal systems, first aid systems, governing body, food import/export, etc, etc, etc,.  The people who own property and business are casualties here.  Should we let them be held hostage for longer?


 What Chaz is doing is no different than what the South attempted to do before the civil war.  Declare themselves autonomous and not subject to government rule.  

And the business owners are going to be casualties of that.  I, for one, don't think we should let it happen, but this is a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation for Trump.  The local leaders have to ask him for help.  They are letting this continue.  And those are the elected officials.  The people need to be more careful about who they put in charge.  


I may have already posted this,, but I believe the mayor is in on it 


 Absolutely.  And if they are not going to do anything about it, it's time for the rest of the country to flat out abandon them.  They want to be autonomous?  Build your own power plants, grow your own food, and I'm sure there's some nurses and EMTs in there with them.  Let them deal with their problems themselves.  People get hungry - they will go home. 



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who is going to apologize to me for the way the Irish and Scottish were treated for 1000 years?


 Scottish and Irish aren't races....


 The entire black race was not slaves either.  Yes, some were selected to be and brought over here.  


 "selected" = kidnapped, beaten, raped, stolen, dragged, killed, etc....  And yes, black is a race.  (there is an official term but good enough)/  You make it sound like they won a contest!


 Actually, they likely lost a war.  Africans sold losing tribes into slavery.  


 Canada beat the US in a war.  Would it have been okay if we sold you into slavery?



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Tignanello wrote:
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who is going to apologize to me for the way the Irish and Scottish were treated for 1000 years?


 Scottish and Irish aren't races....


 The entire black race was not slaves either.  Yes, some were selected to be and brought over here.  


 "selected" = kidnapped, beaten, raped, stolen, dragged, killed, etc....  And yes, black is a race.  (there is an official term but good enough)/  You make it sound like they won a contest!


 Actually, they likely lost a war.  Africans sold losing tribes into slavery.  


 Canada beat the US in a war.  Would it have been okay if we sold you into slavery?


 And, black Africans sold other black Africans into slavery.



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
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who is going to apologize to me for the way the Irish and Scottish were treated for 1000 years?


 Scottish and Irish aren't races....


 The entire black race was not slaves either.  Yes, some were selected to be and brought over here.  


 "selected" = kidnapped, beaten, raped, stolen, dragged, killed, etc....  And yes, black is a race.  (there is an official term but good enough)/  You make it sound like they won a contest!


 Actually, they likely lost a war.  Africans sold losing tribes into slavery.  


 Canada beat the US in a war.  Would it have been okay if we sold you into slavery?


 And, black Africans sold other black Africans into slavery.


 So you're saying that when Canada beat the US in the war, Americans should have sold other Americans to us for slaves?



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Tignanello wrote:
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Tignanello wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
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I know what to do_sometimes wrote:

who is going to apologize to me for the way the Irish and Scottish were treated for 1000 years?


 Scottish and Irish aren't races....


 The entire black race was not slaves either.  Yes, some were selected to be and brought over here.  


 "selected" = kidnapped, beaten, raped, stolen, dragged, killed, etc....  And yes, black is a race.  (there is an official term but good enough)/  You make it sound like they won a contest!


 Actually, they likely lost a war.  Africans sold losing tribes into slavery.  


 Canada beat the US in a war.  Would it have been okay if we sold you into slavery?


 And, black Africans sold other black Africans into slavery.


 So you're saying that when Canada beat the US in the war, Americans should have sold other Americans to us for slaves?


 What she is saying is it wasn't the mean old white man going in and stealing Africans from their dirt floor huts. It was their fellow Africans. So why not put the blame where it belongs? 

 

Africans are still stealing other Africans from schools, homes, streets, everywhere, to sell. It's still going on. Why isn't that being addressed? 

 

 



-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Tuesday 16th of June 2020 06:28:51 PM

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lilyofcourse wrote:
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Tignanello wrote:
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Tignanello wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:

who is going to apologize to me for the way the Irish and Scottish were treated for 1000 years?


 Scottish and Irish aren't races....


 The entire black race was not slaves either.  Yes, some were selected to be and brought over here.  


 "selected" = kidnapped, beaten, raped, stolen, dragged, killed, etc....  And yes, black is a race.  (there is an official term but good enough)/  You make it sound like they won a contest!


 Actually, they likely lost a war.  Africans sold losing tribes into slavery.  


 Canada beat the US in a war.  Would it have been okay if we sold you into slavery?


 And, black Africans sold other black Africans into slavery.


 So you're saying that when Canada beat the US in the war, Americans should have sold other Americans to us for slaves?


 What she is saying is it wasn't the mean old white man going in and stealing Africans from their dirt floor huts. It was their fellow Africans. So why not put the blame where it belongs? 

 

Africans are still stealing other Africans from schools, homes, streets, everywhere, to sell. It's still going on. Why isn't that being addressed? 

 

 



-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Tuesday 16th of June 2020 06:28:51 PM


 Are you talking about human traffiking?  That's a pretty race-neutral issue.



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
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Tignanello wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:

who is going to apologize to me for the way the Irish and Scottish were treated for 1000 years?


 Scottish and Irish aren't races....


 The entire black race was not slaves either.  Yes, some were selected to be and brought over here.  


 "selected" = kidnapped, beaten, raped, stolen, dragged, killed, etc....  And yes, black is a race.  (there is an official term but good enough)/  You make it sound like they won a contest!


 Actually, they likely lost a war.  Africans sold losing tribes into slavery.  


 Canada beat the US in a war.  Would it have been okay if we sold you into slavery?


 And, black Africans sold other black Africans into slavery.


 They still are but now selling to Middle Eastern countries.



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Yes, that's human trafficking. All races do that. And every country.

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Point is, you can't blame one race.

And, slavery is human trafficking.

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Funny how no one ever wants to discuss how blacks sold blacks in to slavery through the centuries. It's only okay to talk about to blame the whites.

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I guess calling it "human trafficking" by them doesn't mean that those blacks sold blacks into slavery. They were just "human trafficking". But, the whites were selling slaves!

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Yes, that's human trafficking. All races do that. And every country.


 So, with that you are acknowledging that all races have suffered as well, not just African Americans?  



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Yes, that's human trafficking. All races do that. And every country.


 So, with that you are acknowledging that all races have suffered as well, not just African Americans?  


 I acknowledge that you are missing the point.



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Tignanello wrote:
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Yes, that's human trafficking. All races do that. And every country.


 So, with that you are acknowledging that all races have suffered as well, not just African Americans?  


 I acknowledge that you are missing the point.


 Then, please, make your point glaringly obvious!

Because what I see is your doing everything you can to make it two separate things, when it's just the same thing, only not as divisive as the liberals need it to be to keep their narrative going.



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Today, I received emails from several of our biggest accounts and partners that they will be closed on Friday in observance if Juneteenth...

SERIOUSLY?!?!?!?!?


 One, people need to quit groveling and secon, what is junetenth?


 Right?

 

Juneteenth (a portmanteau of June and nineteenth),[2] also known as Freedom Day,[3] Jubilee Day,[4] and Cel-Liberation Day,[5] is an American holiday celebrated annually on June 19. It commemorates June 19, 1865, when Union general Gordon Granger read federal orders in GalvestonTexas, that all previously enslaved people in Texas were free.[6] Although the Emancipation Proclamation had formally freed them almost two and a half years earlier, and the American Civil War had largely ended with the defeat of the Confederate States in April, Texas was the most remote of the slave states, with a low presence of Union troops, so enforcement of the proclamation had been slow and inconsistent.[6]



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We learned about Juneteenth in school. I agree, celebrate it. We go crazy over Cinco de mayo. So why not celebrate this?

But it isn't a national holiday, so that's fine.



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We learned about Juneteenth in school. I agree, celebrate it. We go crazy over Cinco de mayo. So why not celebrate this?

But it isn't a national holiday, so that's fine.


 I didn't know about it until I was working the Southern Baptist Convention in Atlanta on 6/19/92...WOW...Eye opening.

 

And I agree, it's not a national holiday.  Businesses should not have to close...

 



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Our governor has declared it a state holiday. Whatever. I don't care one way or another. They want to celebrate it? Fine with me.

I learned about it about 15 years ago. I was working for DOJ and they had trivia contests once a week during the various months. During Black History Month they had a trivia question on it. Basically whoever could google the answer the fastest and respond first would get a prize. I won a really nice African mask carved from wood. I have it on a display shelf in my office. Anyway, that's when and where I learned about Juneteenth. DH had never heard of it before until last week when I told him about it. It came up because Trump rescheduled one of his rallies which had been scheduled on the 19th and out of respect he changed it to the 20th. This was before the governor decided to try to one up him.

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who is going to apologize to me for the way the Irish and Scottish were treated for 1000 years?


 Scottish and Irish aren't races....


 The entire black race was not slaves either.  Yes, some were selected to be and brought over here.  


 "selected" = kidnapped, beaten, raped, stolen, dragged, killed, etc....  And yes, black is a race.  (there is an official term but good enough)/  You make it sound like they won a contest!


 Actually, they likely lost a war.  Africans sold losing tribes into slavery.  


 Canada beat the US in a war.  Would it have been okay if we sold you into slavery?


 Don't think the war of 1812 counts as a win for Canada.  It was a war with Britain, and ended in a stalemate.  Canada didn't even become an independent country until 1867 (and that's debatable - some say it wasn't until 1931).   

The U.S. has won a lot of wars and not sold anyone into slavery.  But the point was that the Africans were a great factor in selling their own people into slavery - it's not just the white man at fault for slavery.  


 



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No. The military does not need to "take them out".

What needs to happen is to let it fail miserably. Become the poster child for all things liberal.

I will support the arrest and prosecution for anyone proven to have broken the established law.


 Yes, it is showing America what liberal socialism will really be if allowed to thrive.


 CHAZ is an example of neither socialism or liberalism.


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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
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No. The military does not need to "take them out".

What needs to happen is to let it fail miserably. Become the poster child for all things liberal.

I will support the arrest and prosecution for anyone proven to have broken the established law.


 Yes, it is showing America what liberal socialism will really be if allowed to thrive.


 CHAZ is an example of neither socialism or liberalism.


 Ya huh


 Their idea of socialism and liberalism. If the mayor wasn’t enabling them and providing for them on the backs of taxpayer, they will come to understand real socialism 



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AAAANNNNNDDDD...my company caved. We are off tomorrow "to reflect, learn, and contribute to the ongoing fight for racial equity around the world", complete with "as well as links and tools to help advance the principles of equal justice"

I'm going to the lake...just sayin...

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