TOTALLY GEEKED!

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Teacher put on administrative duty and likely to be fired for ordering books he assigned for the students to buy.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

We have big issues with finding enough books around here when they are assigned. Many parents ask others to order for them if they are doing it online b/c a $2 book costs less than shipping will. And not all people order things online.

It doesn't say he made them buy them. I would be grateful for the convenience.

Maybe the school is just pissed off b/c he didn't do it through the bookstore so they could make a profit off the kids.

Or, as he said - looking for something to pin on him for retaliation.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

This is ridiculous. He probably didn't follow procedure but he didn't profit & none of the students complained. Slap his hand, tell him to follow procedure next time & get him back in the class room where he belongs.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

This is why schools lose good teachers.

Riding · Guru

makes no sense to me, but then so so much of what is involved in Education these days, not surprising...

FNW · Guru

My guess is by him purchasing the books rather than a student, the school did not get the "credits" they need for free books. They really push those scholastic reading order forms here. And they were probably looking for an excuse.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

The school is ALL about getting money.

I had a situation with the school library when the kids were in elementary school.

Two of the kids had lost a library book each. The school sent the note home with the cost of the book.

The books were $20 each. And I didn't think that was right.

So, I found the books at the book store, one was about $5 and the other about $7.

I sent them in, still in the plastic.

They called and asked me to come in.

I go in, they try to hand me the books and said they couldn't take them and needed the $20 for each book.

I told them they could keep the brand new books or they could have nothing.

They took the books.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
The school is ALL about getting money.

I had a situation with the school library when the kids were in elementary school.

Two of the kids had lost a library book each. The school sent the note home with the cost of the book.

The books were $20 each. And I didn't think that was right.

So, I found the books at the book store, one was about $5 and the other about $7.

I sent them in, still in the plastic.

They called and asked me to come in.

I go in, they try to hand me the books and said they couldn't take them and needed the $20 for each book.

I told them they could keep the brand new books or they could have nothing.

They took the books.

Lily - the cost of library bound books is higher than the books you buy in the store. If they were library editions that were lost, they would have cost more to replace. Library binding is sturdier to withstand repeated use by children.

FNW · Guru

Wow. What a scam, lily.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
The school is ALL about getting money.

I had a situation with the school library when the kids were in elementary school.

Two of the kids had lost a library book each. The school sent the note home with the cost of the book.

The books were $20 each. And I didn't think that was right.

So, I found the books at the book store, one was about $5 and the other about $7.

I sent them in, still in the plastic.

They called and asked me to come in.

I go in, they try to hand me the books and said they couldn't take them and needed the $20 for each book.

I told them they could keep the brand new books or they could have nothing.

They took the books.

Lily - the cost of library bound books is higher than the books you buy in the store. If they were library editions that were lost, they would have cost more to replace. Library binding is sturdier to withstand repeated use by children.

Not these books.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

My public library has a $10 fee added to the cost of replacing any book to cover the administrative costs of re-ordering the book, shipping, and re-doing the indexing in the system and on the book.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

And every book isn't $20.

The little golden readers are not $20 each.

Most of the books have the scholastic logo on them.

Matter of fact, you could purchase scholastic books from the book fair to donate to the library twice a year.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
My public library has a $10 fee added to the cost of replacing any book to cover the administrative costs of re-ordering the book, shipping, and re-doing the indexing in the system and on the book.

Every time my kids have had a book assigned, I buy it.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
And every book isn't $20.

The little golden readers are not $20 each.

Most of the books have the scholastic logo on them.

Matter of fact, you could purchase scholastic books from the book fair to donate to the library twice a year.

Scholastic also has books with library binding:

http://scholasticlibrary.digital.scholastic.com/978-0-545-02936-0.html

I ordered books from the fair for our school library when I was on the PTO. Whenever possible - we got the library edition, and it was basically 3 times as much as the regular book, but it would stand up 10 times longer than a regular store edition.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

This shows the price difference well. And they are Golden Look-look books:

www.amazon.com/Turtleback-School-Library-Binding-Look-Look/dp/0808527347/ref=sr_1_2

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

And here's a Little Golden Book in Library binding. It's over $13 when the store copies are less than $5.

www.amazon.com/Frozen-Turtleback-School-Library-Binding/dp/0606366717/ref=sr_1_19

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Still not $20.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Still not $20.

Let's see, $13.50 plus shipping, plus the cost of re-stickering and covering the book, plus the time spent doing it. Cost is about more than just the thing - it's called overhead. Overhead is usually absorbed by the cost of an item when selling it, but since it's a library.....

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Look. I know this school system.

I am not going to feel bad about what I did.

I also had the principal of that school tell me that my daughter being out for 10 days after surgery would effect their federal funding.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Still not $20.

Let's see, $13.50 plus shipping, plus the cost of re-stickering and covering the book, plus the time spent doing it. Cost is about more than just the thing - it's called overhead. Overhead is usually absorbed by the cost of an item when selling it, but since it's a library.....

Don't even get me started.

IN ADDITION to the durability of the binding, each copy of the book has to be the exact same (ISBN number included), or another bibliographic record must be created.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Back to the OP:

This, I think, says it all:

“Nobody had an issue with that,” Friedman said. “This has been going on for decades.”

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Look. I know this school system.

I am not going to feel bad about what I did.

I also had the principal of that school tell me that my daughter being out for 10 days after surgery would effect their federal funding.

I'm not sure why you think that is untrue. A lot of funding is based on attendance.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Look. I know this school system.

I am not going to feel bad about what I did.

I also had the principal of that school tell me that my daughter being out for 10 days after surgery would effect their federal funding.

I'm not sure why you think that is untrue. A lot of funding is based on attendance.

Oh I know it's true.

The point is, the school is all about money.

Money, money, money.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Look. I know this school system.

I am not going to feel bad about what I did.

I also had the principal of that school tell me that my daughter being out for 10 days after surgery would effect their federal funding.

I'm not sure why you think that is untrue. A lot of funding is based on attendance.
Oh I know it's true.
The point is, the school is all about money.
Money, money, money.

Well, I'm not really going to take issue with that. They are sorely underfunded.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

THUS why teachers have to use their OWN MONEY to buy supplies.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Besides, DD12 went to private school for Pre-K and Kindergarten - talk about MONEY. We had to pay for everything, plus tuition, plus they expected a certain amount of fundraising, and we had to supply ALL supplies for the classroom, including soap for the bathrooms. My school supply list each year was easily $250. Plus, we had to buy all their books.

Teachers ask me for some paper and tissues? So not a problem for me. My response is usually, "What else do you need?"

WYSIWYG · Guru

“Materials and textbooks supplied by the Department of Education for use in classes, shops or laboratories shall not under any circumstances be sold, nor shall any charge for them be made to the student,” the regulation says
- OP

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These books weren't "supplied by the Department of Education" (via ordering through the normal channels), they were supplied by him. So why is he in trouble again?

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
The school is ALL about getting money.

I had a situation with the school library when the kids were in elementary school.

Two of the kids had lost a library book each. The school sent the note home with the cost of the book.

The books were $20 each. And I didn't think that was right.

So, I found the books at the book store, one was about $5 and the other about $7.

I sent them in, still in the plastic.

They called and asked me to come in.

I go in, they try to hand me the books and said they couldn't take them and needed the $20 for each book.

I told them they could keep the brand new books or they could have nothing.

They took the books.

You didn't think it was right?

You think it's right that the library should be on the hook for the cost of replacing the books because your children were irresponsible?

weltschmerz · Guru

Remind me to never lend you my $2,000 Louis Vuitton handbag.
You'll probably lose it, and then try to replace it with a knock-off you bought from the trunk a car, from a guy with shifty eyes who keeps looking over his shoulder. For $30.
Then if I complain...
"Welts is all about the money! It's not right!"

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

You have absolutely nothing I need or want.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

weltschmerz wrote:
Remind me to never lend you my $2,000 Louis Vuitton handbag.
You'll probably lose it, and then try to replace it with a knock-off you bought from the trunk a car, from a guy with shifty eyes who keeps looking over his shoulder. For $30.
Then if I complain...
"Welts is all about the money! It's not right!"

Please note how nasty this is. I was able to disagree with her without nastiness.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Some posters bring out the worst in others.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Well, let me say this. Weltz better start contributing posts that are not just nasty all the time. Her posts seem to be about nothing but starting crap and that is TROLLING.

And I'm over it.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

But, I will admit that this thread reminded me to stop by my local library & pay for a book that I had lost. There is no limit on renewals, so that's what I had been doing.

Luckily, it was only $15.

flan